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Questions/Concerns about this team.. 1 week 1 day ago #443949

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billthetruth post=443948 wrote:

Monte post=443924 wrote:

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Monte post=443902 wrote: I posed these questions, in no particular  order, before the Indiana game. I modified question number 2 slightly. Other then #4, we still don't know answer to the other questions. Still early, but these are major concerns. In particular, who is our back up PG and who is going to contribute down low? 

1. Can Smith and Coburn get good looks and knock down shots against a much higher level of comp?
2. Can Soriano hold his own down low against Jackson-Davis(and other more talented big men)?
3. Can Wheeler and Stanley be effective around the rim on both ends?
4. What can Mathis give us on offense? 
5. Who is our back up PG? 

1- Smith shot well tonight but was like 1-15 from behind the arc before that.  But he has at least been able to score going to the basket.  As of right now, Coburn doesnt look like the guy we saw in the 1st 2 games.  I will say no that he wont tep up against better comp.
2- Soriano is too slow footed and cant jump.  Any skilled big man is going to eat him for breakfast.
3- Not liking what I have seen from wheeler or stanley.  Ill say no.
4- Mathis is a slasher.  As long as he doesnt jack up 3s, he has been pretty good.
5- Our backup point guard is Pinzon.  

Agree with all except 5. Don't see how we can anoint Pinzon the back up PG based on such a small sample size. Hopefully he grows in to that position over the course of the season, lord knows it's his for the taking, just need to see more before I convinced. 

We can anoint him the backup point guard because Mike Anderson has. Pinzon's play in a hostile environment in Indiana shows he is more than capable of solidly handling the backup job and giving Posh 10 minutes of rest time a game this year. He doesn't have to be Ja Morant to help out either.

Pinzon is not an average freshman as he has a ton of international experience and has played in high pressured games. Plus he was beyond well coached at LuHi by Coach Buck.   

It was one game, and both Mathis and Posh were out for stretches, so CMA through him in. Kid did well but once again, it was one game.  Let's see the kid do it consistently against top flight comp, and I'll agree. Till then, it's nothing more than wishful thanking.
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Questions/Concerns about this team.. 1 week 1 day ago #443950

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Brian3 post=443947 wrote: Solid responses to the questions posed - gonna try and put a positive spin this.... cause if I get negative this early in the season, its gonna make for a long year lol.
- St Peter's game was a solid showing against a good local team - positive
- 2nd half vs Indiana, without Mathis- this team showed the ability to persevere and showed a lot of grit
- We've beaten everyone we're supposed to....

The last two games have us feeling sour... rightfully so. BUT... fairly confident things will turn around...
- Julian- an uncharacteristic 1/11 from 3 the last two games
- Stef Smith - 3/ 17 from 3 on the season (after going 37/37/42/36% 4 yrs at Vermont)
- Missing our Floor general the last two games (dont care that he played FDU.... he was clearly hobbled)
- Pinzon/Coburn each have missed some time (solid role players who give the starters some rest)

what is a bit concerning- our 3% has dipped each game- 52->45->33->23->21%... and for a team that has preached Family/cohesiveness pre-season.... not seeing that too much the past two games.... 

In the spirit of Thanksgiving- they'll come together over the next 3 days.... put on a show Saturday, and will be ready for the biggest test of the season so far on Dec 3. 

Have a good Holiday guys

Appreciate the positive spin Brian, lord knows we can all use it after our last 2 games. Also appreciate your insightful and realiity-based comments. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. 

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Questions/Concerns about this team.. 1 week 1 day ago #443951

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Monte post=443902 wrote: I posed these questions, in no particular  order, before the Indiana game. I modified question number 2 slightly. Other then #4, we still don't know answer to the other questions. Still early, but these are major concerns. In particular, who is our back up PG and who is going to contribute down low? 

1. Can Smith and Coburn get good looks and knock down shots against a much higher level of comp?
2. Can Soriano hold his own down low against Jackson-Davis(and other more talented big men)?
3. Can Wheeler and Stanley be effective around the rim on both ends?
4. What can Mathis give us on offense? 
5. Who is our back up PG? 

Great questions and I think particular 2, 3 and 5 hold the keys to our season. 

1. I was high on Smith as I  watched a lot of his games in the America East. Hopefully he will connect on more threes but otherwise what you have seen is what you will get. A solid but not spectacular player. As we saw against Indiana in the second half, he can play against high level competition. I remember Coburn from Cardozo but I didn't follow him much at Hofstra so for me the jury is still out on him. I can see he can shoot from the outside and has some athleticism so hopefully there will be some games where he will help us.
2. I don't know. I remember him playing against Cockburn in high school and while he was clearly outmatched he fought hard. I would like to see more of that fight every game. I think there is some hope as he has decent hands and can pass a little. His rebounding needs to get better. We got killed on the boards by St. Francis.
3. I don't think to the level that most fans desire. Wheeler doesn't seem to be a banger and on offense he has an ok shot and can dunk but don't see a post game. His size is good when we press. Stanley can develop but it is impossible to tell how long he will take. He wants to be a Power Forward which helps.
4. Seems solid. Looks great on defense. As long as he lets the game come to him he fits well in the starting backcourt with Posh and Smith.
5. Smith would be my first choice as while he is not spectacular he can be adequate in short stretches. He has 17 assists and 7 turnovers so far. I much prefer Wusu off the ball. He does so many things well but turns it over too often to be trusted at PG at this point. He is a key player for us though. Pinzon looked comfortable in the Indiana game so I am optimistic he has some role here.

Even with Posh and Pinzon healthy we look to be one good player short to be more then an NCAA bubble team. It is up to CMA to figure out how to fill that hole and prove me wrong.


 

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Questions/Concerns about this team.. 1 week 1 day ago #443952

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I didn’t like Pinzon the first 2 games. But IMO, based on very small sample size , the Indiana game and his international experience, he will be Poshs backup and pg of the future. He’s also long and a pesky defender. The problem is , he has a broken finger. Not on his shooting hand, hopefully he will be back soon, but I don’t know,
At the risk of being redundant, like Monte, I am concerned about the Bigs, and it seems we have no answers. Let’s hope Soriano is in a funk and will snap out of it and be serviceable.
Very happy w Montis, he is a BE starter.
For an off game Champ still played great, but Posh is the facilitator.
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Questions/Concerns about this team.. 1 week 1 day ago #443955

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Interior complement thus far has shown little to give one confidence that this unit has been upgraded;

Joel has some skills  (good passer, decent hands), but suffers on switches and finds himself out of position in that situation, negating his rebounding opportunities. He seems capable of bodying up beefy opponents, but many times he will face quicker stretch five types who will drag him away from the hole.

Stanley will be a good banger and player, but you win with experience and it is a lot to ask for a freshman to be the primary five guy. I like his upside though.

Our Texas Tech transfer. Nyiwe, appears to have been a signee there to fill out their roster and his minutes to date seem to portend him being a non factor this season. I never felt he was diamond in the rough, great athlete who was perfect for CMA’s system, but I hope I am proven wrong over time.

I still have faith we have other new  pieces like Smith and Mathis to help our two main guys. Hopefully Coburn will help on the perimeter and get out of his recent funk. Not expecting a Kansas win obviously, but hopefully we can play them tough. The one remaining OOC game I think will shed light on this team’s prognosis is Colgate outing. They are well coached and remind me of that Vermont team we stumbled against in the past. We always seem to lose one like that, but hopefully the team puts them away and help prepare for a solid BE start.
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Questions/Concerns about this team.. 1 week 1 day ago #443960

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So far, Mathis, Smith and Coburn have not had a game where two of the three have an impact, especially on the scoring front.  It's early, when these three guys, who I see as key 3rd, 4th options after Julian and Posh, start to produce  we'll be much better.
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Questions/Concerns about this team.. 1 week 1 day ago #443963

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I think these are all very valid concerns and questions. Something I've learned in sports though, is to never get too high after wins, or too low after losses. Right now the team as a sum of its parts doesn't seem as great as we expected. Then again, without Posh playing or Julian dominating, this season was likely always going to be a struggle anyway. Personally, I do see some potential there, and just have to hold out hope these parts start to gel and come together as they play more. 
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Questions/Concerns about this team.. 1 week 1 day ago #443968

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I think we all need to calm down a bit with Soriano. Big guys take more time to get acclimated to new systems as they play without ball and have to get used to where the other guys are on the court. He will eventually get to that point where proper spacing will be second nature. There have been a few times already where his timing with Posh on drives to hoop has been off. That will change with repetition, as he has good hands for a big.

Joel put in a lot of work during the off season getting his body up to Big East level speed and for that reason alone I am rooting hard for success for him. He has a soft touch from the free throw line, which is nice added bonus and important as he will draw a lot of fouls. I would have to look away from TV screen at times when Roberts was at free throw line as it was often cringeworthy material, though he did improve marginally last year. 

Is Soriano the next coming of Lew Alcindor, clearly no, but he has already shown me that he is far more skilled than Josh Roberts, who no offense still looked lost at times last year on the offensive end after 3 years at the college level. I also much prefer Soriano at center than the days of Marvin Clark being forced to play out of position at the 5.    

Patience is a virtue that is often lost on this board. Can we at least get to mid-January before we start killing the guys game?
In time, I believe he will prove to be a net positive for this team. 
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Questions/Concerns about this team.. 1 week 1 day ago #443977

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I confess I only watched the first 10 minutes and  last 6 minutes of last night's game. When I was watching Mathis looked very good, Smith a steadying influence and Champ played hard and did lots of good things except hitting threes & foul shots. 

While all of our new guys except Mathis & Smith have been inconsistent to date, for me it's way too early (5 games in) to conclude they are not going to be what we hoped. I'm going to wait until after we play Colgate (10 games and 2 more quality opponents) before I make any judgments of whether we have a likely tourney team with this bunch.

Other than Nyiwe who I don't expect to play much at all, I've seen enough flashes of talent from the other new guys to think they have the  chance to be useful Big East players so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for the next few games.  
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Questions/Concerns about this team.. 1 week 1 day ago #444009

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So a few games in, I’m going with the notion that Aaron Wheeler is purely a perimeter player (or at least thinks he is) and will give us little to no inside help.

Am I wrong?

 

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