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2021-2022 Schedule 4 months 1 week ago #434137

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jerseyshorejohnny post=434124 wrote:

SLYFOXX1968 post=434122 wrote: I guess we want to continue our dozens of years scheduling OOC games with NJIT, FDU and St Peter’s ?   Can our own JSJ be complicit in selecting those NJ based teams?   Couldn’t we have least done Manhattan , Fordham and Iona ?   Of course , I believe JSJ innocent of any involvement .! Only a joke … 

LOL !!! If I had any pull, I would have scheduled Monmouth since it's 20 minutes from my house

Go Johnnies !!!
     Good point , JSJ .  Great Reply !   You do have Pull. Here on Redmen. Com for sure . 

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2021-2022 Schedule 4 months 1 week ago #434138

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fordham96 post=434123 wrote: Is SJU not playing in an exempt Tourney this year?

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You will have one Big East for Big 12 Challenge (or whatever it is called) and one in the Gavitt Games with the Big 12.  Add the Pitt game and that's three games against other Big Six conferences.  They are working on at least one more.


I don’t know if they are in an exempt tourney this year or not.

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2021-2022 Schedule 4 months 1 week ago #434145

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Yes, Gotham classic vs Pitt.  There are also two games on campus 

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2021-2022 Schedule 4 months 1 week ago #434146

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Last year our awful OOC kept us out of the Dance despite us going 7-1 with a winning conference record.

So far we don't have any respectable games on the schedule. Pitt will be like playing a mediocre mid-major as their NET will probably be around 200. Hopefully we have solid Big 12/10 opponents. 

If we aren't in a tournament then we really need to schedule at least 2 other solid opponents. 
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2021-2022 Schedule 4 months 1 week ago #434148

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That is not an exempt Tourney.  I am talking about something like the Maui Invitational or Charleston Classic.

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Yes, Gotham classic vs Pitt.  There are also two games on campus 

 

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2021-2022 Schedule 4 months 1 week ago #434149

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Adam post=434146 wrote: Last year our awful OOC kept us out of the Dance despite us going 7-1 with a winning conference record.

So far we don't have any respectable games on the schedule. Pitt will be like playing a mediocre mid-major as their NET will probably be around 200. Hopefully we have solid Big 12/10 opponents. 

If we aren't in a tournament then we really need to schedule at least 2 other solid opponents. 

Unfortunately, Coach A has a history of soft non-conference scheduling.  He prefers that his teams learn the system during the early parts of the year, especially when he has new/young teams.

This upcoming season, IMO, should be the last year of transition.  I initially thought we'd start doing damage in year 3, but COVID, and the transfer rules, delays that a year

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2021-2022 Schedule 4 months 1 week ago #434151

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On the bright side Carvel just announced a sponsorship with our OOC games
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mjmaherjr post=434151 wrote: On the bright side Carvel just announced a sponsorship with out OOC games

Thought it was with Hostess. 
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2021-2022 Schedule 4 months 1 week ago #434156

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Adam post=434146 wrote: Last year our awful OOC kept us out of the Dance despite us going 7-1 with a winning conference record.

So far we don't have any respectable games on the schedule. Pitt will be like playing a mediocre mid-major as their NET will probably be around 200. Hopefully we have solid Big 12/10 opponents. 

If we aren't in a tournament then we really need to schedule at least 2 other solid opponents. 

I have to disagree here, the non-conference isn't what kept them out of the tournament, most teams had questionable non-conference slates just to fill games, a lot of teams didn't even get to play a full non-conference schedule.  If UConn simply would have returned the home game instead of refusing to play it, a win there would have likely been enough to be on the right side of the bubble.  UConn had a 33 NET, that would have been a Q2 win against a tournament team. 

Also, another underrated fact that hurt tournament chances was DePaul only being able to play 2 non-conference game and brought a horrible NET into conference.  Had they been able to play a full non-conference slate, I have no doubt they would have had a better NET and that loss wouldn't have hurt our NET as much as it did, that one loss essentially knocked us out.

And CMA always plays 3-4 decent teams in non-conference, that'll be enough.  Conference play is 20 games now, so if they go .500 in conference in the future, they'll make the tournament, last year was an anomaly for the reasons I listed, next year teams won't have the option to avoid games and you won't have teams coming into conference with almost no non-conference games.
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2021-2022 Schedule 4 months 1 week ago #434184

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Making Plays- sure, there were multiple reasons we didn't make the Tournament, but our poor OOC resume absolutely played a major role. 2 reasons:

1. We had 0 quality wins OOC. It was a total waste of a schedule once we lost to the only decent team in BYU. Compare that to Big East teams who got at-large bids. Nova, Creighton and UConn all had major OOC wins. Yes, it was a weird year, but end of the day the teams who scheduled better still were better positioned than we were. Can't rely on the Big East being as good as it was 2 years ago to bail us out. This poor schedule also arguably hurt our preparation going into Big East play and led to our mediocre conference start. 
2. Our OOC NET was awful, because it was a weak schedule where we played mediocre teams too closely. I don't remember what our NET was at the start of Big East play, but I believe it was around 85-100. We were essentially playing catch up with our NET but ran out of BE games. Compare that to the last time where we made the Tournament in 2019. Our NET by the end of OOC was roughly 25, and we still made the Tournament with only an 8-10 Big East record. 

Our OOC only hurt us. It provided zero quality wins and tanked our NET. Again, weird year and our OOC schedule isn't the only reason we didn't make the Dance, but it absolutely played a major role. No excuses for next year if we schedule poorly again. 
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