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Welcome Montez Mathis, G, Rutgers transfer (SJU Commit) 2 months 16 hours ago #432622

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AlexSTJ post=432621 wrote: Rutgers was 215th in tempo last season, we were 10th. I see a guy like Mathis getting easier buckets in an up tempo offense and putting up more efficient numbers.



I agree with you that he should get easier baskets in open court/up tempo offense. I’m pointing out that he took more 3’s in a much slower tempo than our good shooters did in a faster tempo. You would think it would be the opposite.
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Welcome Montez Mathis, G, Rutgers transfer (SJU Commit) 2 months 15 hours ago #432624

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AlexSTJ post=432621 wrote: Rutgers was 215th in tempo last season, we were 10th. I see a guy like Mathis getting easier buckets in an up tempo offense and putting up more efficient numbers.



I agree with you that he should get easier baskets in open court/up tempo offense. I’m pointing out that he took more 3’s in a much slower tempo than our good shooters did in a faster tempo. You would think it would be the opposite.

It was nice to see guys like Williams and Earlington hit some 3's for us, but let's pump the brakes. There's a reason all of our departing players have transferred down. Jury is still out on 3 point shooting next season. Our immediate problem was defense and scoring in the paint. I think we've addressed both of those issues nicely. 
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Amaseinyourface post=432622 wrote:

AlexSTJ post=432621 wrote: Rutgers was 215th in tempo last season, we were 10th. I see a guy like Mathis getting easier buckets in an up tempo offense and putting up more efficient numbers.



I agree with you that he should get easier baskets in open court/up tempo offense. I’m pointing out that he took more 3’s in a much slower tempo than our good shooters did in a faster tempo. You would think it would be the opposite.

Why would it be the opposite.   In a halfcourt offense, with defenses set and packed in to avoid layups, they will often give the 3 to shooters who aren't so good.   That could be the issue with him taking shots the defense readily gave him.
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Welcome Montez Mathis, G, Rutgers transfer (SJU Commit) 2 months 12 hours ago #432641

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AlexSTJ post=432621 wrote: Rutgers was 215th in tempo last season, we were 10th. I see a guy like Mathis getting easier buckets in an up tempo offense and putting up more efficient numbers.



I agree with you that he should get easier baskets in open court/up tempo offense. I’m pointing out that he took more 3’s in a much slower tempo than our good shooters did in a faster tempo. You would think it would be the opposite.

Why would it be the opposite.   In a halfcourt offense, with defenses set and packed in to avoid layups, they will often give the 3 to shooters who aren't so good.   That could be the issue with him taking shots the defense readily gave him.


I think it would be the opposite because an uptempo team would figure to take more shots.  That is my thinking. If Rutgers were to play at a higher pace, do you expect him to take less shots?

 Your point about defenses being set and forcing some  3’s has merit, but thats really my point overall. I don’t want a player who is a sub 30% 3pt shooter taking 3 threes a game is all.  

FWIW last year Rutgers was 249th in 3 point FG attempts per game. Sju was 183rd.

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Amaseinyourface post=432641 wrote:

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AlexSTJ post=432621 wrote: Rutgers was 215th in tempo last season, we were 10th. I see a guy like Mathis getting easier buckets in an up tempo offense and putting up more efficient numbers.



I agree with you that he should get easier baskets in open court/up tempo offense. I’m pointing out that he took more 3’s in a much slower tempo than our good shooters did in a faster tempo. You would think it would be the opposite.

Why would it be the opposite.   In a halfcourt offense, with defenses set and packed in to avoid layups, they will often give the 3 to shooters who aren't so good.   That could be the issue with him taking shots the defense readily gave him.


I think it would be the opposite because an uptempo team would figure to take more shots.  That is my thinking. If Rutgers were to play at a higher pace, do you expect him to take less shots?

 Your point about defenses being set and forcing some  3’s has merit, but thats really my point overall. I don’t want a player who is a sub 30% 3pt shooter taking 3 threes a game is all.  

FWIW last year Rutgers was 249th in 3 point FG attempts per game. Sju was 183rd.

What you say makes sense also in terms of shorter possessions = more shots.   I would agree.    I would like our 3 point shooters all above 40%
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Welcome Montez Mathis, G, Rutgers transfer (SJU Commit) 2 months 11 hours ago #432647

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Paralysis by analysis.
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Beast of the East post=432646 wrote: What you say makes sense also in terms of shorter possessions = more shots.   I would agree.    I would like our 3 point shooters all above 40%
 


If by 3 point shooters you mean guys who take them regularly let's set that then at 3 or more 3 pointers per game.  Exactly 5 players in the entire BE shot over 40% on 3 or more per game in 2021.    GWIII and Duke were among the 4 that shot over 40% in 2-3 shots per game.

What I'd like is one featured wing who can join the featured shooter group, 3 or 4 more guys who can shoot over 35%.  I used to always oversimplify it as 33% from 3 = 50% from 2.  Also I believe OR% is higher on missed 3s than missed 2s due to the propensity for long rebounds.

PS taking minimum shots out of the equation the #1 3 point shooter in the BE last season?  Theo Johns.  See what 10 years of Marquette coaching can get you.
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And I would like a fast break offense with a deadly from three shooter trailing the break; i.e. Don Nelson on the Cowens, Havlicek, JoJo, Silas, Chaney Celtics.

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Beast of the East post=432646 wrote: What you say makes sense also in terms of shorter possessions = more shots.   I would agree.    I would like our 3 point shooters all above 40%

 


If by 3 point shooters you mean guys who take them regularly let's set that then at 3 or more 3 pointers per game.  Exactly 5 players in the entire BE shot over 40% on 3 or more per game in 2021.    GWIII and Duke were among the 4 that shot over 40% in 2-3 shots per game.

What I'd like is one featured wing who can join the featured shooter group, 3 or 4 more guys who can shoot over 35%.  I used to always oversimplify it as 33% from 3 = 50% from 2.  Also I believe OR% is higher on missed 3s than missed 2s due to the propensity for long rebounds.

PS taking minimum shots out of the equation the #1 3 point shooter in the BE last season?  Theo Johns.  See what 10 years of Marquette coaching can get you.

I think that way too in terms of multiplying pct by 1.5, but you also don't go to the line as much when you shoot threes, so you keep your opponents on the floor.
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Welcome Montez Mathis, G, Rutgers transfer (SJU Commit) 1 month 4 weeks ago #432752

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N.Y. – Already poised to welcome back the reigning BIG EAST Defensive Player of the Year, the St. John's men's basketball team has added another defensive talent in Rutgers transfer Montez Mathis, Head Coach  Mike Anderson  announced on Thursday.
 
Mathis, a Baltimore native, played in 90 games and made 67 starts during a three-year career at Rutgers and will have two years of collegiate eligibility remaining.  He helped lead the Scarlet Knights to an overall record of 50-40 and the program's first NCAA Tournament appearance in 30 years.
 
"We're very excited to welcome Montez to the St. John's family," said Anderson. "He has the ability to score and defend at a high level and he is a great fit for our program. Plus, he's a veteran and a proven winner at the collegiate and high school levels. That's invaluable when you're establishing a winning culture."
 
This past season, Mathis averaged 8.3 points and aided Rutgers in advancing to the NCAA Tournament Round of 32.  He shot 38.3 percent from the field and 29.7 percent from beyond the arc while grabbing 2.8 boards in 21.3 minutes per game.  Mathis finished in double figures 10 times with six showings of 15-plus points.  His best effort of the season came in an 81-76 win over Purdue in late December, scoring 25 points on 9-of-15 shooting, including a perfect 5-for-5 performance from three-point range. 
 
Mathis started off the season strong, reaching double figures in eight of his first nine games and averaging 15.3 points per game during that stretch.  In addition to the 25-point outing against Purdue, Mathis also poured in 19 in a win over Syracuse, 15 against Illinois and 16 at Ohio State.  In the second round of the NCAA Tournament against Final Four-bound Houston, Mathis finished with 10 points in 23 minutes of action.  
 
As a sophomore in 2019-20, Mathis started all 31 games for a Rutgers team that was poised to snap its NCAA Tournament drought before COVID-19 forced its cancelation.  Mathis averaged 7.4 points and 3.5 rebounds per game for the 20-11 Scarlet Knights with 10 double-figure outings.   He also finished third on the squad with 30 steals. 
 
Mathis' career-best scoring output came during his freshman campaign when he averaged 8.5 points per outing, including 10.2 points per game against Big Ten opponents.  He reached double figures 13 times, highlighted by a stretch that saw him eclipse the mark six times in seven games during conference play.  His best effort of the season came against Nebraska on Jan. 21 in Piscataway, when Mathis netted 20 points on 7-of-16 shooting and grabbed nine boards, including five on the offensive glass. 
 
A consensus four-start recruit out of The John Carroll School, Mathis was ranked as the 20th best shooting guard by ESPN in the class of 2018.  As a senior, Mathis helped lead his team to a 29-8 mark and an MIAA "A" Conference title.  On the AAU circuit, Mathis competed with Team BBC.  
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