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(POST GAME) (MSG) DePaul, Sat. Jan. 11, Noon, FSN (YES) / 970 WNYM 2 months 2 weeks ago #372026

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MarkRedman wrote: We get killed on the boards and Steere is a DNP
Very telling


Sears didn’t play a ton either. With Dunn and Williams getting so many minutes, and with the uptempo pace of the game, seemed like CMA wanted to stick with a smaller/faster lineup. Don’t expect Steere to see much PT the rest of the way. Not sure he’s a match with CMA’s style of play.


None of our Bigs were impressive today. Sears misses lay ups, Robert's can't shoot and Steere is the most gifted of them but has had a tough time grasping the plays CMA wants to run. Steere needs to become a team member rather than an outcast. I hope he gets it sooner rather than "see ya later".


Does anyone know what's going on with Steere? Always leery of transfers. Dude should have no problem getting some minutes.


All I hear is that he plays soft as Carvel and uninspired when given a chance. That won't fly with this staff. Hate to see wasted talent but you can drag a horse to water but...........


You don’t have to hear it, you can see it when he steps on the court. Part of it may be effort, part of it may just be that he can’t keep up on either end, especially when we press. Or maybe both.
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(POST GAME) (MSG) DePaul, Sat. Jan. 11, Noon, FSN (YES) / 970 WNYM 2 months 2 weeks ago #372027

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Monte wrote:

Class of 72 wrote:

Johnnie Drama wrote:

Class of 72 wrote:

Monte wrote:

MarkRedman wrote: We get killed on the boards and Steere is a DNP
Very telling


Sears didn’t play a ton either. With Dunn and Williams getting so many minutes, and with the uptempo pace of the game, seemed like CMA wanted to stick with a smaller/faster lineup. Don’t expect Steere to see much PT the rest of the way. Not sure he’s a match with CMA’s style of play.


None of our Bigs were impressive today. Sears misses lay ups, Robert's can't shoot and Steere is the most gifted of them but has had a tough time grasping the plays CMA wants to run. Steere needs to become a team member rather than an outcast. I hope he gets it sooner rather than "see ya later".


Does anyone know what's going on with Steere? Always leery of transfers. Dude should have no problem getting some minutes.


All I hear is that he plays soft as Carvel and uninspired when given a chance. That won't fly with this staff. Hate to see wasted talent but you can drag a horse to water but...........


You don’t have to hear it, you can see it when he steps on the court. Part of it may be effort, part of it may just be that he can’t keep up on either end, especially when we press. Or maybe both.

Still early, but Ian may be a lesson learned like Keita. It is risky to project how transfers will fare with limited playing time history & no track record. We hang our hats too often on ratings and are disappointed many times. Eli Wright is another example imo.
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(POST GAME) (MSG) DePaul, Sat. Jan. 11, Noon, FSN (YES) / 970 WNYM 2 months 2 weeks ago #372029

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Paultzman wrote:

Monte wrote:

Class of 72 wrote:

Johnnie Drama wrote:

Class of 72 wrote:

Monte wrote:

MarkRedman wrote: We get killed on the boards and Steere is a DNP
Very telling


Sears didn’t play a ton either. With Dunn and Williams getting so many minutes, and with the uptempo pace of the game, seemed like CMA wanted to stick with a smaller/faster lineup. Don’t expect Steere to see much PT the rest of the way. Not sure he’s a match with CMA’s style of play.


None of our Bigs were impressive today. Sears misses lay ups, Robert's can't shoot and Steere is the most gifted of them but has had a tough time grasping the plays CMA wants to run. Steere needs to become a team member rather than an outcast. I hope he gets it sooner rather than "see ya later".


Does anyone know what's going on with Steere? Always leery of transfers. Dude should have no problem getting some minutes.


All I hear is that he plays soft as Carvel and uninspired when given a chance. That won't fly with this staff. Hate to see wasted talent but you can drag a horse to water but...........


You don’t have to hear it, you can see it when he steps on the court. Part of it may be effort, part of it may just be that he can’t keep up on either end, especially when we press. Or maybe both.

Still early, but Ian may be a lesson learned like Keita. It is risky to project how transfers will fare with limited playing time history & no track record. We hang our hats too often on ratings and are disappointed many times. Eli Wright is another example imo.


Paultz obviously we would all prefer that we get higher ranked kids, whether it be right out of high school for via transfer, but I like to say that rankings mean very little once a kid has played college ball and shown what he’s capable of. Of course some kids take longer to develop(Sir Dom come to mind) but others never become productive college players in spite of their lofty ranking coming out of high school. Not passing judgement on Steere, but haven’t been impressed so far with his mobility and energy level. Both of which are key elements of CMA teams. Also keeping in mind that Steere was not a CMA recruit.
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(POST GAME) (MSG) DePaul, Sat. Jan. 11, Noon, FSN (YES) / 970 WNYM 2 months 2 weeks ago #372031

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Paultzman wrote:

Monte wrote:

Class of 72 wrote:

Johnnie Drama wrote:

Class of 72 wrote:

Monte wrote:

MarkRedman wrote: We get killed on the boards and Steere is a DNP
Very telling


Sears didn’t play a ton either. With Dunn and Williams getting so many minutes, and with the uptempo pace of the game, seemed like CMA wanted to stick with a smaller/faster lineup. Don’t expect Steere to see much PT the rest of the way. Not sure he’s a match with CMA’s style of play.


None of our Bigs were impressive today. Sears misses lay ups, Robert's can't shoot and Steere is the most gifted of them but has had a tough time grasping the plays CMA wants to run. Steere needs to become a team member rather than an outcast. I hope he gets it sooner rather than "see ya later".


Does anyone know what's going on with Steere? Always leery of transfers. Dude should have no problem getting some minutes.


All I hear is that he plays soft as Carvel and uninspired when given a chance. That won't fly with this staff. Hate to see wasted talent but you can drag a horse to water but...........


You don’t have to hear it, you can see it when he steps on the court. Part of it may be effort, part of it may just be that he can’t keep up on either end, especially when we press. Or maybe both.

Still early, but Ian may be a lesson learned like Keita. It is risky to project how transfers will fare with limited playing time history & no track record. We hang our hats too often on ratings and are disappointed many times. Eli Wright is another example imo.


I paid really close attention to Steere, each time he's received playing time and he looks absolutely lost on both offense and defense. It was always telling to me that anytime CMA was asked about him in the media he really made sure to temper expectations.

Also, another thing about Steere I believe he played for a different high school each one of his high school years, and he originally committed to Creighton, then flipped to NC State, then transferred from there after his first game. He doesn't seem to be big on keeping a commitment to a team. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he decides to transfer again, unless his minutes and role changes drastically, which I don't see happening.
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(POST GAME) (MSG) DePaul, Sat. Jan. 11, Noon, FSN (YES) / 970 WNYM 2 months 2 weeks ago #372033

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Watching replay that happened to be on.

Steere's head was buried in towel around his neck most of game. Barely showed any emotion and rarely clapped when everyone else was. Looked miserable.

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(POST GAME) (MSG) DePaul, Sat. Jan. 11, Noon, FSN (YES) / 970 WNYM 2 months 2 weeks ago #372034

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Having seen Steere at the open practice, he struck me as someone who preferred to shoot from 10 feet out rather than bang the boards; yes he jams in the lay up line--but that is not in a game. He was not a CMA recruit and there is definitely a difference of opinion right now and CMA is the boss.

As to today it was a TEAM victory but I am proud to say Brooklyn In The House, thanks to Dunn and Champ.
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(POST GAME) (MSG) DePaul, Sat. Jan. 11, Noon, FSN (YES) / 970 WNYM 2 months 2 weeks ago #372036

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Someone mentioned how many assists Dunn could have if our bigs could make a gimme. How so? He'd have to pass the ball first, no? Two times on the same possession he has Earlington standing 5 feet from him, with only one defender back, and he insists on taking in himself! Why? Hate to rip on him after the game he had, but he's a selfish player. One time he got in the air under the basket with nowhere to go and decided to just fall out of bounds rather than trying to pass it toward a teammate.
27 fouls called in the second half. 27
Watching the game today made me realize how much Williams would have helped guarding McClung the other night.
Glad to see Champagnie producing again.
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(POST GAME) (MSG) DePaul, Sat. Jan. 11, Noon, FSN (YES) / 970 WNYM 2 months 2 weeks ago #372037

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I legitimately thought Steere could be a starter and give us 8 and 6, and become a 14 and 9-10 guy as a senior. Now it looks like he'll have to transfer to somewhere like High Point or Elon to get minutes and stuff stat sheets. Damn shame.
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(POST GAME) (MSG) DePaul, Sat. Jan. 11, Noon, FSN (YES) / 970 WNYM 2 months 2 weeks ago #372038

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Ken Shark wrote: Someone mentioned how many assists Dunn could have if our bigs could make a gimme. How so? He'd have to pass the ball first, no? Two times on the same possession he has Earlington standing 5 feet from him, with only one defender back, and he insists on taking in himself! Why? Hate to rip on him after the game he had, but he's a selfish player. One time he got in the air under the basket with nowhere to go and decided to just fall out of bounds rather than trying to pass it toward a teammate.
27 fouls called in the second half. 27
Watching the game today made me realize how much Williams would have helped guarding McClung the other night.
Glad to see Champagnie producing again.



Dunn is a scorer. As such he has a scorers mentality. You’re expecting him to behave like a PG. Maybe in time, but he’s still feeling his way out there. I for one am thrilled to have him and am willing to take the cons that come with his many pros. He’s our best player right now.
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