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Article on Gonzaga 1 week 3 days ago #359474

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“Charming, yes, but it’s more than that: How Gonzaga built a contender, and has stayed there”

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Article on Gonzaga 1 week 3 days ago #359476

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Mark Few... that’s how. 1999-now. One excellent coach and consistency of methods. No shady recruiters, no smoke and mirrors. Consistently great scouting of talent and coaching.
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Article on Gonzaga 1 week 3 days ago #359503

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The scouting of Gonzaga and Nova are exceptional. Even if they try getting transfers from NJIT, you just get that feeling they will turn out good. Gonzaga is amazing at getting foreign kids and turning them into beasts. Really hope we have some good scouts who can project somewhat accurately, because god knows we are severely overdue for that. Our wheelhouse is top 150 kids before they totally blow up and can get coached up to a top 50 type.

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Article on Gonzaga 1 week 2 days ago #359518

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Coaster wrote: Something else re: Mark Few.
collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2019/10/...re-out-homelessness/


Absurd article by the author. He says he won’t call him out then goes and calls Few a doofus. I don’t think Few is at all wrong. His point is to keep politicians out of it which he’s totally correct about.

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Article on Gonzaga 1 week 2 days ago #359533

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MCNPA wrote:

Coaster wrote: Something else re: Mark Few.
collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2019/10/...re-out-homelessness/


Absurd article by the author. He says he won’t call him out then goes and calls Few a doofus. I don’t think Few is at all wrong. His point is to keep politicians out of it which he’s totally correct about.


I'd like to keep politicians out of this, but you really can't. They system is broken/rigged against players and despite court rulings like the O'Bannon case, despite players trying to unionize, despite a VERY public set of trials for under the table paying of players by sneaker companies, the NCAA has done nothing to address the issue and fix the system.

These athletes are young men and women, but they are adults. They have rights, and they are being exploited. If the powers that be can't read the writing on the wall and move to create a more equitable system then they leave it up to politicians to protect the rights of their constituents.

All the law in California has done is put the NCAA on a 3 year clock to figure things out. Without that, why would they make any changes?

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Mike Zaun wrote: The scouting of Gonzaga and Nova are exceptional. Even if they try getting transfers from NJIT, you just get that feeling they will turn out good. Gonzaga is amazing at getting foreign kids and turning them into beasts. Really hope we have some good scouts who can project somewhat accurately, because god knows we are severely overdue for that. Our wheelhouse is top 150 kids before they totally blow up and can get coached up to a top 50 type.


Foreign players (like Sabonis, whose dad was an NBA star) arrive highly skilled in all aspects of the game, and can shoot, dribble, pass, and in general are fundamentally sound. Once you get a pipeline of foreign players going who have success at your school, many time euro coaches contact a school like Gonzaga and not the other way around.

Few has built a great program no doubt, and while a program is never really on autopilot, he in part is reaping the benefits of running a decades old winning program.

No question that being in a weaker conference WCC has helped him a bit but 21 straight NCAA bids is simply astounding, even with 6 bids of a 10 seed or higher.
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Article on Gonzaga 1 week 1 day ago #359636

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I agree with everything Mark Few says on this issue . The Governor of California has incredible ability to make a Ass of himself nearly everyday . His State is a mess and he hasn’t a clue how to fix it , before all his Citizens bail out of his State . There needs to be a differentiation for the kids in HS who clearly have the ability / potential to become a NBA player , after 1 or 2 years . If the NBA wants these kids let them go direct to the League and pay them . The way College BB is today is for that high ability player to go to College until he’s 20 or past the age the age the NBA decided upon years ago is Absurd. Having them play 1 year for Duke or Kentucky is unfair to both , that player and the school and makes a mockery that these players are Student Athletes . The players who aren’t going to the NBA and play 4 years or so, are the Student Athletes . Lebron went to the league out of HS and in the past , others did too. Why have them prep for a year at a School , they have no interest in graduating from ? I see it as a NBA problem, not a college problem . For kids who want a free Education on a scholarship , that may be enough of a reward . Although , kids should receive some sort of modest Financial Aid to be able to go on a date or buy a pizza .

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SLYFOXX1968 wrote: I agree with everything Mark Few says on this issue . The Governor of California has incredible ability to make a Ass of himself nearly everyday . His State is a mess and he hasn’t a clue how to fix it , before all his Citizens bail out of his State . There needs to be a differentiation for the kids in HS who clearly have the ability / potential to become a NBA player , after 1 or 2 years . If the NBA wants these kids let them go direct to the League and pay them . The way College BB is today is for that high ability player to go to College until he’s 20 or past the age the age the NBA decided upon years ago is Absurd. Having them play 1 year for Duke or Kentucky is unfair to both , that player and the school and makes a mockery that these players are Student Athletes . The players who aren’t going to the NBA and play 4 years or so, are the Student Athletes . Lebron went to the league out of HS and in the past , others did too. Why have them prep for a year at a School , they have no interest in graduating from ? I see it as a NBA problem, not a college problem . For kids who want a free Education on a scholarship , that may be enough of a reward . Although , kids should receive some sort of modest Financial Aid to be able to go on a date or buy a pizza .


Seems like you are conflating two different subjects, but an interesting post nonetheless.

I believe that the reason highschool kids aren't in the NBA draft anymore is because the league doesn't want them. For every Lebron there are 10 Eddie Curry's. The NBA doesn't want its teams to have to waste first round picks on a roll of the dice on which 17 year old kids are going to be stars 5 years down the road. I don't think they want them sitting on the bench for two years working on their game and on developing their bodies to compete with men. I think they should try to emulate the college baseball model. Create a minor league system if you get drafted and sign out of HS you forego the option of playing in college. If you go to college, you can't go back in the draft for 3 years.

That said, the NBA issue really has nothing to do with the issue of paying players. You could take the top 100 HS hoops players out of the equation every year and colleges would still fight over the remaining talent and still be a multi billion dollar business. Fans would still line up for games because they root for the laundry, not the player.
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Article on Gonzaga 1 week 20 hours ago #359678

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SLYFOXX1968 wrote: I agree with everything Mark Few says on this issue . The Governor of California has incredible ability to make a Ass of himself nearly everyday . His State is a mess and he hasn’t a clue how to fix it , before all his Citizens bail out of his State . There needs to be a differentiation for the kids in HS who clearly have the ability / potential to become a NBA player , after 1 or 2 years . If the NBA wants these kids let them go direct to the League and pay them . The way College BB is today is for that high ability player to go to College until he’s 20 or past the age the age the NBA decided upon years ago is Absurd. Having them play 1 year for Duke or Kentucky is unfair to both , that player and the school and makes a mockery that these players are Student Athletes . The players who aren’t going to the NBA and play 4 years or so, are the Student Athletes . Lebron went to the league out of HS and in the past , others did too. Why have them prep for a year at a School , they have no interest in graduating from ? I see it as a NBA problem, not a college problem . For kids who want a free Education on a scholarship , that may be enough of a reward . Although , kids should receive some sort of modest Financial Aid to be able to go on a date or buy a pizza .


Seems like you are conflating two different subjects, but an interesting post nonetheless.

I believe that the reason highschool kids aren't in the NBA draft anymore is because the league doesn't want them. For every Lebron there are 10 Eddie Curry's. The NBA doesn't want its teams to have to waste first round picks on a roll of the dice on which 17 year old kids are going to be stars 5 years down the road. I don't think they want them sitting on the bench for two years working on their game and on developing their bodies to compete with men. I think they should try to emulate the college baseball model. Create a minor league system if you get drafted and sign out of HS you forego the option of playing in college. If you go to college, you can't go back in the draft for 3 years.

That said, the NBA issue really has nothing to do with the issue of paying players. You could take the top 100 HS hoops players out of the equation every year and colleges would still fight over the remaining talent and still be a multi billion dollar business. Fans would still line up for games because they root for the laundry, not the player.

. Appreciate your comments , I do think the NBA is the reason for the 1 and dones in College Basketball . And , does it matter if the Zion Williamson’s and the next 40 kids drafted are 17,18 19 years old ? The NBA has already scouted them for their potential , not necessarily their accomplishments . Abusing College BB to let these players play for the benefit of the NBA is contributing to the Dukes , Kentucky , etc basically departing from their mission to educate Students , not be a 1 year farm system . I think the NCAA rules on giving modest stipends to those Scholarship players who are truly interested in being a Student Athlete needs major overhaul . And , for those players interested in getting a full College Education for free plus a livable allowance is the way to go . The One and Doners don’t need that 1 year of College Ball and the NBA should let them go direct to the Development League right out of HS and not muddy up the College game for the benefit of only a few schools who divide up the Top 100 players for the most part .

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