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Pitino 8 months 3 days ago #339016

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Watch us get Cluess, Cincy gets Pitino and they are a top 10 team every year. Just...wait lol.

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docbutler wrote: While I personally don't see the St. John's hierarchy hiring a coach sporting the obvious scars of Rick Pitino...I must say that for me, this hire is fairly simple. Let's face the facts. We just basically fired the school's all-time hero because he "WASN'T WINNING". We have come to this board and cried in our beers for the last 25 years, because this program is frustratingly underwhelming. We've seen coaches come and go, Athletic Director's come and go, and the promise of this big man, or another, go as well. I don't know how many of you are as disgusted as I am? I stare at my TV screen trying to figure out how, they seem to have quality centers at Division I programs, so far in the sticks, I'm almost surprised they have electricity. We live in the most fantastic media market in the world...but we can't find a coach who can recruit here?....Impossible!!!! But we are now at an important crossroads. We have been in the crosshairs of obscurity for so long, it is threatening to become a permanent condition. We have several key players positioned to leave the program....a ground zero if you will. It is 4th and 20...and there is two minutes left in the game. It is time for a home run...a full court shot! In the wake of firing our school hero, anything less seems antithetical! Presumably, we let Chris go because we have a WILL TO WIN!. If that is the case, then anything less than hiring the best possible option to make that happen, makes no sense. If morality is your chief concern, then why didn't you simply stay with Mullin. There isn't an available coach in America (assuming he were actually interested), who could potentially breathe competitive life into this Red Storm program. His past travesties...who cares? He carries denial of those travesties and well, isn't forgiveness and rehabilitation part of our Christian message? Rick Pitino has delivered at every program where he has participated in his storied career. He is a man who understands this game and recognizes court situations, and also knows how to recruit. His name will attract important talent. Our program is in severe need of this sort of authentic boost. It will take a tremendous coach to overcome our obvious recruiting deficits....no football, home-coming, or a transient student population. It will take a Rick Pitino, if anyone at all can do it! This is hardly the time for moralistic platitudes. I watch St. John's basketball with an intense desire to see us win. For those two hours, that is what matters to me. I save church, and the ramblings of behavioral perfection, for Sunday mornings!


Interesting post. So, the program is in such dire straits that only a “home run” hire in Rick Pitino can save it? Except for Pitino killed the golden goose at Louisville such that he’s coaching in Greece, mostly of his own doing. He has plausible deniability. So what? I didn’t know my players had hookers in their dorm? Really? The way I heard it, none of his players had a single beer without him knowing it. Ever. There isn’t a major program in America that would hire him. If Mike Rice was vetoed as an assistant, like the Forbes article says, how will they justify Pitino.

Pitino might be the fastest route to bringing 5 star recruits, but there is a mercenary quality to that as well. I’d rather see a professional AD, for a change, hire a professional coaching staff with excellent recruiters, game planning and player development and rebuild permanently from there. I’m hoping we have that. We shall see.


Same clowns who didnt want to hear names available last time like Barnes and Pearl, and look at them now! And we are back here again. So how did that work out for us Einstein! Louisville BB takes in more money than anyone else! Who did that? Pitino set that up. So Einstein he left that program better than he found it, now didnt he? Go get your shine box


Is that really necessary? Grow up
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Pitino 8 months 3 days ago #339029

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If St. John's wants to win Pitino is the obvious hire. As a non-Catholic and someone who didn't go to SJU I'm interested in what in Pitino's past is keeping St. John's from hiring him. Is it the affair(s)? Donald Trump is President (with a majority of the Catholic vote). Is it the obviously dirty programs he ran? Does anybody even pretend to care about that anymore? The NCAA is obviously immoral and I assume every school cheats or turns a blind eye to it. Is Pitino a non-starter for the important people at St. John's because he paid for an abortion? I ask this with complete respect and curiosity is paying for an abortion the unforgivable sin keeping St. John's from hiring Pitino?

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Mike Zaun wrote: Watch us get Cluess, Cincy gets Pitino and they are a top 10 team every year. Just...wait lol.


I am with you with Slick Rick but even you have to understand why it is extremely unlikely. And even if people like us would be totally for it is understandable why a Catholic University would have issues with it.
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we are sju wrote:

Mike Zaun wrote: Watch us get Cluess, Cincy gets Pitino and they are a top 10 team every year. Just...wait lol.


I am with you with Slick Rick but even you have to understand why it is extremely unlikely. And even if people like us would be totally for it is understandable why a Catholic University would have issues with it.


I thought us Catholics supposed to forgive?

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Pitino 8 months 3 days ago #339038

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BasketballJones wrote:

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docbutler wrote: While I personally don't see the St. John's hierarchy hiring a coach sporting the obvious scars of Rick Pitino...I must say that for me, this hire is fairly simple. Let's face the facts. We just basically fired the school's all-time hero because he "WASN'T WINNING". We have come to this board and cried in our beers for the last 25 years, because this program is frustratingly underwhelming. We've seen coaches come and go, Athletic Director's come and go, and the promise of this big man, or another, go as well. I don't know how many of you are as disgusted as I am? I stare at my TV screen trying to figure out how, they seem to have quality centers at Division I programs, so far in the sticks, I'm almost surprised they have electricity. We live in the most fantastic media market in the world...but we can't find a coach who can recruit here?....Impossible!!!! But we are now at an important crossroads. We have been in the crosshairs of obscurity for so long, it is threatening to become a permanent condition. We have several key players positioned to leave the program....a ground zero if you will. It is 4th and 20...and there is two minutes left in the game. It is time for a home run...a full court shot! In the wake of firing our school hero, anything less seems antithetical! Presumably, we let Chris go because we have a WILL TO WIN!. If that is the case, then anything less than hiring the best possible option to make that happen, makes no sense. If morality is your chief concern, then why didn't you simply stay with Mullin. There isn't an available coach in America (assuming he were actually interested), who could potentially breathe competitive life into this Red Storm program. His past travesties...who cares? He carries denial of those travesties and well, isn't forgiveness and rehabilitation part of our Christian message? Rick Pitino has delivered at every program where he has participated in his storied career. He is a man who understands this game and recognizes court situations, and also knows how to recruit. His name will attract important talent. Our program is in severe need of this sort of authentic boost. It will take a tremendous coach to overcome our obvious recruiting deficits....no football, home-coming, or a transient student population. It will take a Rick Pitino, if anyone at all can do it! This is hardly the time for moralistic platitudes. I watch St. John's basketball with an intense desire to see us win. For those two hours, that is what matters to me. I save church, and the ramblings of behavioral perfection, for Sunday mornings!


Interesting post. So, the program is in such dire straits that only a “home run” hire in Rick Pitino can save it? Except for Pitino killed the golden goose at Louisville such that he’s coaching in Greece, mostly of his own doing. He has plausible deniability. So what? I didn’t know my players had hookers in their dorm? Really? The way I heard it, none of his players had a single beer without him knowing it. Ever. There isn’t a major program in America that would hire him. If Mike Rice was vetoed as an assistant, like the Forbes article says, how will they justify Pitino.

Pitino might be the fastest route to bringing 5 star recruits, but there is a mercenary quality to that as well. I’d rather see a professional AD, for a change, hire a professional coaching staff with excellent recruiters, game planning and player development and rebuild permanently from there. I’m hoping we have that. We shall see.


Same clowns who didnt want to hear names available last time like Barnes and Pearl, and look at them now! And we are back here again. So how did that work out for us Einstein! Louisville BB takes in more money than anyone else! Who did that? Pitino set that up. So Einstein he left that program better than he found it, now didnt he? Go get your shine box


Is that really necessary? Grow up


Yeah i should of left out the shine box comment! With appologies. The rest of what I said is spot on. Louisville is pre season top 10

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Pitino 8 months 3 days ago #339041

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oldschool Redmen wrote:

we are sju wrote:

Mike Zaun wrote: Watch us get Cluess, Cincy gets Pitino and they are a top 10 team every year. Just...wait lol.


I am with you with Slick Rick but even you have to understand why it is extremely unlikely. And even if people like us would be totally for it is understandable why a Catholic University would have issues with it.


I thought us Catholics supposed to forgive?


Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

One of my favorite verses BP.... "Before Pitino"

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Mike Zaun wrote: Watch us get Cluess, Cincy gets Pitino and they are a top 10 team every year. Just...wait lol.


I think the part about Pitino going to Cincy is spot on. Someone is going to land Rick, and they will be rewarded.
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oldschool Redmen wrote:

we are sju wrote:

Mike Zaun wrote: Watch us get Cluess, Cincy gets Pitino and they are a top 10 team every year. Just...wait lol.


I am with you with Slick Rick but even you have to understand why it is extremely unlikely. And even if people like us would be totally for it is understandable why a Catholic University would have issues with it.


I thought us Catholics supposed to forgive?


Don't look at me, I was never even mad at him :)

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adavis1 wrote: If St. John's wants to win Pitino is the obvious hire. As a non-Catholic and someone who didn't go to SJU I'm interested in what in Pitino's past is keeping St. John's from hiring him. Is it the affair(s)? Donald Trump is President (with a majority of the Catholic vote). Is it the obviously dirty programs he ran? Does anybody even pretend to care about that anymore? The NCAA is obviously immoral and I assume every school cheats or turns a blind eye to it. Is Pitino a non-starter for the important people at St. John's because he paid for an abortion? I ask this with complete respect and curiosity is paying for an abortion the unforgivable sin keeping St. John's from hiring Pitino?


The priest at my wife’s church read a ringing endorsement of Trump during a mass from the Rockville Center Diocese! But a line gets drawn here. So hypocritical.

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