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Cragg and the SJU “Culture” 1 month 2 weeks ago #335953

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One of the take-aways for me from watching the tourney games is the “culture” that exists at so many of the other programs. There seems to be a true comraderie between the coaching staffs and the kids, and a brotherhood between teammates. These kids take pride in wearing the uniform of the school they represent, even if they only plan on representing that school for one year. Usually this culture starts at the top; with the head coach. That culture is clearly lacking here. I can’t say for certain what kind of bond there is between the staff and the kids, but my sense is that it’s not nearly as close as it is elsewhere. And this brings me to Cragg. IMO it is imperative that he help (re)create a culture here if we are to ever again reach sustained success.. It not going to be easy, especially since we’ve been down so long, but we are one of the winningest programs in the history of college basketball and once had a wonderful culture here. Besides, I don’t think he would have taken the job it he wasn’t confident that he could lead the resurgence of the basketball program. With all due respect to anyone who left here or is about to leave, my feeling is: don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Let’s rebuild the staff with people who have the same goal in mind, and find kids who feel the same way and who are not just looking to use our school as a stopover on their way to someplace else. I’ve heard some things in the last few days that lead me to believe that Cragg is already in the process of righting the ship. I, for one, fully expect him to be successful.
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Cragg and the SJU “Culture” 1 month 2 weeks ago #335993

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When I think of player-coach connection, this is the image that always pops in my mind. Obviously don't want to see the injury part, but the love for his player was evident.

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I hope you're right, Monte. But at the end of the day, I'm just very skeptical with Mullin at the helm. I'm not exactly sure how Cragg goes about having the conversation, "Listen Chris, I think you are doing a great job, but I'm letting you know your entire staff is gone. I still believe in you though..."

Plus, we can't un-see what we've seen the last few years. Not recruiting, not replacing unqualified assistants with qualified ones, taking entire summers off, not meeting with recruits when they are on campus, tying your shoe for 45 minutes while in a huddle. I'm not privy with what goes on behind the scenes, but I haven't been impressed with him or his decision making abilities. Will I root for him? Of course I will. At the end of the day, you root for the program and the jersey. Coaches and players come and go. But still need to see it before I believe it.
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Cragg and the SJU “Culture” 1 month 2 weeks ago #336001

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Great post Monte! I always say the glaring problem with the program is the culture. It begins with Mullin but truthfully it’s been a perpetual problem for years. I too hope AD Cragg can turn it around.
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Cragg and the SJU “Culture” 1 month 3 weeks ago #336003

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L J S A wrote: When I think of player-coach connection, this is the image that always pops in my mind. Obviously don't want to see the injury part, but the love for his player was evident.


Wow.

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Cragg and the SJU “Culture” 1 month 3 weeks ago #336006

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Winning makes everything better. Of course the programs still playing looknlike they are best friends.

If we are going to talk culture then we can’t ignore the citizenship of the players. I don’t recall there being any major problems the past few years. Our players refer to the staff and teammates as a family.

No arrests. No failed drug tests. No major academic issues. No fights. No hint of NCAA violations.

I think Mullin handed over recruiting to Matt in part because he can’t contribute anywhere else and that was a mistake, but not a fatal one. I’d like to see a more balanced approach with contributions from all coaches in all areas. I don’t think Matt’s ego allowed for that. That why I want a guy like Hsu who has the contacts to be creative like I believe we need here, while also being able to properly identify and evaluate talent as well as help with coaching and player development.
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Cragg and the SJU “Culture” 1 month 3 weeks ago #336007

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Marillac wrote: Winning makes everything better. Of course the programs still playing looknlike they are best friends.

If we are going to talk culture then we can’t ignore the citizenship of the players. I don’t recall there being any major problems the past few years. Our players refer to the staff and teammates as a family.

No arrests. No failed drug tests. No major academic issues. No fights. No hint of NCAA violations.

I think Mullin handed over recruiting to Matt in part because he can’t contribute anywhere else and that was a mistake, but not a fatal one. I’d like to see a more balanced approach with contributions from all coaches in all areas. I don’t think Matt’s ego allowed for that. That why I want a guy like Hsu who has the contacts to be creative like I believe we need here, while also being able to properly identify and evaluate talent as well as help with coaching and player development.


Please tell me what it is that Mullin himself contributes. Pretty much most agree that Matt did the recruiting, St. Jean the coaching, Mitch keeps Mullin company. What does Mullin do?
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ron wrote:

Marillac wrote: Winning makes everything better. Of course the programs still playing looknlike they are best friends.

If we are going to talk culture then we can’t ignore the citizenship of the players. I don’t recall there being any major problems the past few years. Our players refer to the staff and teammates as a family.

No arrests. No failed drug tests. No major academic issues. No fights. No hint of NCAA violations.

I think Mullin handed over recruiting to Matt in part because he can’t contribute anywhere else and that was a mistake, but not a fatal one. I’d like to see a more balanced approach with contributions from all coaches in all areas. I don’t think Matt’s ego allowed for that. That why I want a guy like Hsu who has the contacts to be creative like I believe we need here, while also being able to properly identify and evaluate talent as well as help with coaching and player development.


Please tell me what it is that Mullin himself contributes. Pretty much most agree that Matt did the recruiting, St. Jean the coaching, Mitch keeps Mullin company. What does Mullin do?


What does Ewing do?
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Cragg and the SJU “Culture” 1 month 3 weeks ago #336010

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DoodyNY33 wrote: I hope you're right, Monte. But at the end of the day, I'm just very skeptical with Mullin at the helm. I'm not exactly sure how Cragg goes about having the conversation, "Listen Chris, I think you are doing a great job, but I'm letting you know your entire staff is gone. I still believe in you though..."

Plus, we can't un-see what we've seen the last few years. Not recruiting, not replacing unqualified assistants with qualified ones, taking entire summers off, not meeting with recruits when they are on campus, tying your shoe for 45 minutes while in a huddle. I'm not privy with what goes on behind the scenes, but I haven't been impressed with him or his decision making abilities. Will I root for him? Of course I will. At the end of the day, you root for the program and the jersey. Coaches and players come and go. But still need to see it before I believe it.


Doody my jury is still out on Chris as well, but my hope is that Cragg surrounds him with people that know more than him, and that he can grow in to the job and help rebuild the program. Then turn the reigns over to one of his erstwhile assts. I started a construction business nearly 30 years ago, knowing very little about the trade. The first thing I did was make sure to surround myself with people who knew more than me. IE project managers, skilled tradespeople, etc. Chris, OTOH, has been trying to learn how to be a head coach while surrounded by people who have the same head coaching experience as him: zero. There’s no one for him to turn to in crucial situations who has actually coached. And that’s ridiculous and not a formula for success. And if being a great player translated to being a great HC, then the HOF would be filled with guys who were both players and coaches. And while there may be some, there ain’t many.
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