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We don’t deserve Ncaa bid 3 months 1 week ago #330655

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Disappointing no doubt, but keep in mind when it comes to the Selection Committee this game counts just as much as any other game we've played: 3% (33 games total). It won't destroy our resume.

As for whether we deserve a bid (which is the main topic of this thread), I'd say we do due to the weak bubble. We're competing with teams like Texas, who is about to finish .500 overall. Yikes!

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We don’t deserve Ncaa bid 3 months 1 week ago #330676

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mkras99 wrote: How many BE teams will make it? I feel like we are fifth in line after Marquette, Nova, Seton Hall and Xavier.


So you've stopped watching college hoops too. LOL

Xavier has 1 quality win. The Nova game. They need to win the BET to get in.

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We don’t deserve Ncaa bid 3 months 1 week ago #330681

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I would expect to be in a play in game likely against another very flawed team. This was a very disappointing season and we played last night exactly the same way we did against Nova two years ago and Xavier the year before. I agree with Mayer that I wouldn’t be disappointed if Belmont, Libscomb or Greensboro takes our spot. I won’t count a win in a Dayton as a tournament win. Of course I will root for them if they make it but what I saw yesterday was disappointing to say it mildly.

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We don’t deserve Ncaa bid 3 months 1 week ago #330683

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Sorry to say but as fantastic both Joe Lunardi and Jerry Palm are at picking, they never go 68 for 68.
Losing feels worse than winning feels good

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We don’t deserve Ncaa bid 3 months 1 week ago #330684

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We'd have a chance in the NIT. The NCAA would be another exercise in futility.
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We don’t deserve Ncaa bid 3 months 1 week ago #330686

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Jack Williams wrote:
But there’s teams like a 16-15 Texas squad that is in most brackets.

Texas has a NET in the 30s and an RPI not far below ours despite their bad record. They also have a bunch of good wins. I don't think either Texas or us deserves a big, but I could definitely see them getting in without us.

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We don’t deserve Ncaa bid 3 months 1 week ago #330687

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austour wrote:

mjmaherjr wrote: Love the kids. Can’t ssy a bad word about any of them. Wish they had more coaching or bench help ( take it firvehat it is but bench produdiction is indisputable ) we might back in. I hope we do but we don’t deserve it. No participation trophies


Mike, there's at least 8 teams in Lunardi's bracket that don't deserve a bid for their level of play (and I include STJ in that), but you got to put 68 teams in. Look at who else is on the bubble. Almost every other 11 and 12 seed besides Temple lost soundly to better teams or closely to worse teams in their conference tourney already and I expect Texas, Florida and Ohio State to follow suit tonight and tomorrow. Not enough teams to jump them and Alabama is the only one of the last 8 out who's even still playing. To be honest I'd respect the committee if the put Belmont, Lipscomb and UNCG in the tourney over the mediocre big 7 teams that are on the bubble, but they won't. It's honestly been a bad year for college hoops all around. Except Zion of course. He's a god. Puke.

The only way STJ doesn't get a bid if is bama, gtown, someone other that Washington, West Virginia and a bottom 8 team in the B10 ALL win their conference tourney.

Alabama, Ohio State, Florida, Texas, and Indiana have names that are associated with the NCAA tournament in recent decades. St. John's is not. I can easily see the committee giving bids to every mid-major bubble team over us.

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We don’t deserve Ncaa bid 3 months 1 week ago #330688

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I think Belmont, Texas, and Clemson get in over us. Plus NC State, Arizona State, Florida, Temple, Indiana, and Ohio State. I think Davidson, Furman, Lipscomb, and UNC Greensboro deserve it over us too. They almost all have a better NET than we do. Xavier could also sneak in with a win over Nova. Add in a few unexpected auto bids and we are OUT. I'm not saying it's fair, but that's what I expect. Nobody's going out of their way to put St. John's in the tournament.

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We don’t deserve Ncaa bid 3 months 1 week ago #330696

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To what degree does the Selection committee take into account short term injuries to discount certain losses? Between ponds and heron we have a few of those. Could make the difference of giving us the benefit of the doubt (that we probably don’t deserve by sputtering to the finish line).

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We don’t deserve Ncaa bid 3 months 1 week ago #330699

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I think we still get in one way or another...but we did pretty much everything we could to sweat it out. We are lucky it was a ranked Marquette team blowing us out and not DePaul or we would be in dire circumstances IMO. Before the season I was expecting an NCAA berth at a minimum regardless of if we squeaked in and lose instantly. I know the mob will burn me at the stake, but maybe just maybe this staff is limited. Is that nice enough? Lol

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