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The Stretch Run 6 days 8 hours ago #321821

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Teams had comparable talent and both rosters were structurally flawed. Neither coach known for tactical savvy or strong work ethic.

I think the 2014-15 team may have had more fortitude. We'll see. Hope the current guys can match the conference record.
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The Stretch Run 6 days 8 hours ago #321822

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JohnnyFan wrote: I think the 2014-15 team may have had more fortitude. We'll see. Hope the current guys can match the conference record.

Maybe if you discount Obekpa. Wasn't crazy about Jordan either. Agree that Pointer, Harrison, Green & Branch were tough minded kids.

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The Stretch Run 6 days 7 hours ago #321824

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Overall I find this a more fun bunch to root for, Obepka and Jordan displayed a lot of negative baggage. I think the teams have similar talent levels. We know where that team ended up, this one is still writing their story.
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The Stretch Run 6 days 5 hours ago #321843

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IDRAFT wrote: Overall I find this a more fun bunch to root for, Obepka and Jordan displayed a lot of negative baggage. I think the teams have similar talent levels. We know where that team ended up, this one is still writing their story.


Obekpa and Jordan were frustrating with their off-court antics, but they were much closer to being a true center and a true point guard, respectively, then anybody we have on the team as presently constructed.

I don't mind postionless/interchangeable players at the 2, 3, and 4 spots, but a true PG and a true C can go a long way towards making your team a successful one.

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The Stretch Run 6 days 5 hours ago #321844

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JohnnyFan wrote: I have been thinking about this comparison.

2014-2015 (21-12; 10-8; at large NCAA bid)
D’Angelo Harrison
Sir’Dominc Pointer
Phil Greene IV
Rysheed Jordan
Chris Obekpa
Jamal Branch
Christian Jones
Amar Alibegovic
Felix Balamou
Khadim Ndiaye
Joey DelaRosa



2018-2019 (???)
Shamorie Ponds
Mustapha Heron
Justin Simon
Marvin Clarke II
LJ Figueroa
Bryan Trimble
Sedee Keita
Greg Williams
Josh Roberts
Marcellus Earlington
Mikey Dixon


If Mustapha is healthy,I think this team’s starting 5 better, but D-Lo, Sir Dom, and Phil Green. IV. were warriors and among my all-time favorite Johnnies.
That said, I hope—with little confidence—this group can regroup and resemble a team that shows some consistency and grit down the stretch and not mail it in.
The jury is out.

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The Stretch Run 6 days 5 hours ago #321845

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SJU61982 wrote:

IDRAFT wrote: Overall I find this a more fun bunch to root for, Obepka and Jordan displayed a lot of negative baggage. I think the teams have similar talent levels. We know where that team ended up, this one is still writing their story.


Obekpa and Jordan were frustrating with their off-court antics, but they were much closer to being a true center and a true point guard, respectively, then anybody we have on the team as presently constructed.

I don't mind postionless/interchangeable players at the 2, 3, and 4 spots, but a true PG and a true C can go a long way towards making your team a successful one.


Maybe Jordan was the better nba prospect at one time, but Ponds is far and away the superior college pg.

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The Stretch Run 6 days 5 hours ago #321846

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Boo Harvey wrote: Maybe Jordan was the better nba prospect at one time, but Ponds is far and away the superior college pg.

Jordan had as much or more talent as anyone on our current team, but was just so undependable.
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The Stretch Run 6 days 4 hours ago #321855

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Boo Harvey wrote:

SJU61982 wrote:

IDRAFT wrote: Overall I find this a more fun bunch to root for, Obepka and Jordan displayed a lot of negative baggage. I think the teams have similar talent levels. We know where that team ended up, this one is still writing their story.


Obekpa and Jordan were frustrating with their off-court antics, but they were much closer to being a true center and a true point guard, respectively, then anybody we have on the team as presently constructed.

I don't mind postionless/interchangeable players at the 2, 3, and 4 spots, but a true PG and a true C can go a long way towards making your team a successful one.


Maybe Jordan was the better nba prospect at one time, but Ponds is far and away the superior college pg.


Ponds is the better college player, but I seem him as more of a hybrid 1/2. A point guard by size, but a 2 guard by style.

Even though he's improved his point guard skills this year, he's still better at creating for himself, then he is at creating for others. He's not Allen Iverson on defense, so I think that handicap is what ultimately will keep him out of the NBA.

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The Stretch Run 5 days 6 hours ago #321960

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NCJohnnie wrote: Boo Harvey wrote: Maybe Jordan was the better nba prospect at one time, but Ponds is far and away the superior college pg.

Jordan had as much or more talent as anyone on our current team, but was just so undependable.


If Rysheed Jordan had anything between the ears he could have been one of St. John's greats. NBA size and talent.
Shamorie Ponds is a great college basketball player. After 3 years I think we all see he would struggle with bigger NBA guards. Unfortunately he dropped some notches this season and Marcus Howard likely will steal his POY unless Slick gets his head straight.
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