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The Stretch Run 2 months 1 week ago #321774

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RedStormNC wrote:

Las Vegan wrote: The minimum level of achievement for the team is to finish in the top six. If we have to play in the Wed. night 7-10, 8-9 games, our season is over.


6th is nothing to be satisfied with. 6th is a bust.


If it's a legit 6th, I'd probably agree.

If the Big East winds up in a ridiculous 4-way tie for third (which is looking possible), and we wind up 6th based on tiebreaker, that's a little different, IMO.

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The Stretch Run 2 months 1 week ago #321784

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SJU61982 wrote:

RedStormNC wrote:

Las Vegan wrote: The minimum level of achievement for the team is to finish in the top six. If we have to play in the Wed. night 7-10, 8-9 games, our season is over.


6th is nothing to be satisfied with. 6th is a bust.


If it's a legit 6th, I'd probably agree.

If the Big East winds up in a ridiculous 4-way tie for third (which is looking possible), and we wind up 6th based on tiebreaker, that's a little different, IMO.


I would consider it a bust, no matter what kind of 6th place it is.
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The Stretch Run 2 months 1 week ago #321788

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Yes, it has been a long time since we danced, let alone win a game there. Staff, competitors and the press seemed high on SJU to contend for BE title, dance and perhaps win a game. Most made reference to this being best SJU roster/starting 5 in ages.

Perhaps everyone overshot the mark, but if not, limping into the NCAA Tourney with a quick exit would be abysmal failure on the team’s and staff’s part imo. Hopefully they respond well down the stretch and reach their goals, but can’t be confident of that based on their inconsistency thus far.
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The Stretch Run 2 months 1 week ago #321790

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Paultzman wrote: Yes, it has been a long time since we danced, let alone win a game there. Staff, competitors and the press seemed high on SJU to contend for BE title, dance and perhaps win a game. Most made reference to this being best SJU roster in ages.

Perhaps everyone overshot the mark, but if not, limping into the NCAA Tourney to with a quick exit would be abysmal failure on the team’s and staff’s part imo. Hopefully they respond well down the stretch and reach their goals, but can’t be confident of that based on their inconsistency thus far.


I don't think (and didn't before the season) that this roster is nearly as good as the 2013-14 unit. The group had depth, balance, and experience. Not making the NCAA Tournament that year was a MAJOR disappointment that season, IMO. I thought that could have been a Sweet Sixteen Team. I'd take that roster over this one in a heartbeat, if only because of frontcourt depth.

I think that season is what soured a lot of people on Lavin, because I actually think he did a better job the following year, yet he still was not retained.
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The Stretch Run 2 months 1 week ago #321791

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It’s impossible to figure out which St. John’s team will show up on Tuesday (with Heron being an additional ?-mark) versus Butler and for the following 6 games.
Realistically, we could either lose 4 or more of these 7 critical games, or win more.
The answer is inside the heads of our guys (assuming they’re healthy).
Who the heck knows?
Let’s go Johnnies.

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The Stretch Run 2 months 1 week ago #321792

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For me, anything less than making the dance is a complete miss for this group (absent a serious injury to one of their starters). They have some work to do to get there at this point but still 7 games left to bounce back
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The Stretch Run 2 months 1 week ago #321797

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We need to do 3 things from here on out:

1. Play smart for 40 minutes
2. Play hard for 40 minutes
3. Stay healthy

Otherwise we’re NIT bound
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The Stretch Run 2 months 1 week ago #321798

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Paultzman wrote how various people felt at the beginning of the season SJU could compete for the top spot in the league and while that is true it now appears the predictors were basing their opinions on the starting five of SJU and didn't give enough weight to the drop off in talent on the bench which was never given the proper attention during the OOC part of the schedule to develop.
You could argue that the games first Ponds missed and then Heron might have had a different ending with substitutes that were better prepared, in addition to other earlier big east games which were lost when the starters were done going into the last five minutes.
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The Stretch Run 2 months 1 week ago #321807

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I have been thinking about this comparison.

2014-2015 (21-12; 10-8; at large NCAA bid)
D’Angelo Harrison
Sir’Dominc Pointer
Phil Greene IV
Rysheed Jordan
Chris Obekpa
Jamal Branch
Christian Jones
Amar Alibegovic
Felix Balamou
Khadim Ndiaye
Joey DelaRosa



2018-2019 (???)
Shamorie Ponds
Mustapha Heron
Justin Simon
Marvin Clarke II
LJ Figueroa
Bryan Trimble
Sedee Keita
Greg Williams
Josh Roberts
Marcellus Earlington
Mikey Dixon

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The Stretch Run 2 months 1 week ago #321813

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JohnnyFan wrote: I have been thinking about this comparison.

2014-2015 (21-12; 10-8; at large NCAA bid)
D’Angelo Harrison
Sir’Dominc Pointer
Phil Greene IV
Rysheed Jordan
Chris Obekpa
Jamal Branch
Christian Jones
Amar Alibegovic
Felix Balamou
Khadim Ndiaye
Joey DelaRosa



2018-2019 (???)
Shamorie Ponds
Mustapha Heron
Justin Simon
Marvin Clarke II
LJ Figueroa
Bryan Trimble
Sedee Keita
Greg Williams
Josh Roberts
Marcellus Earlington
Mikey Dixon


2014/2015 team better all around. Both underperformed(to date for this team).
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