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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 8 months 4 weeks ago #296169

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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 8 months 4 weeks ago #296172

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Paultzman wrote: Not much;
247sports.com/college/basketball/recruit...ory-broke-122515871/


It seems like this case just impacted a few coaches and players in the wrong place at the wrong time and now it’s business as usual. Not sure what the FBI was trying to accomplish.
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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 8 months 4 weeks ago #296176

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What I don't understand is...isn't the FBI staring down the NCAA to make sure they do something? With the FBI watching, the NCAA is just walking away whistling. Why can't they ensure something is done? I'm no lawyer, just confused about this.

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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 8 months 4 weeks ago #296178

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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 8 months 4 weeks ago #296185

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So is Miller actually innocent? Because ignoring the assistant who got arrested doesn't seem like the best way to keep that assistant from turning informant.

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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 8 months 4 weeks ago #296187

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L J S A wrote: So is Miller actually innocent? Because ignoring the assistant who got arrested doesn't seem like the best way to keep that assistant from turning informant.

These situations are like military juntas getting overthrown, generals get out in middle of night & colonels get hung. :)
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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 8 months 4 weeks ago #296189

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Mike Zaun wrote: What I don't understand is...isn't the FBI staring down the NCAA to make sure they do something? With the FBI watching, the NCAA is just walking away whistling. Why can't they ensure something is done? I'm no lawyer, just confused about this.


Even if they wanted to, the NCAA can't really do anything as it currently is the FBI's case. The FBI is the one that investigated and pursued the charges and they are not going to share their records with the NCAA which could prejudice their case.. The NCAA can't do anything until the FBI finishes as anything they do could negatively affect the FBI's cases.

The NCAA can of course pursue stuff that happened outside or separate form the FBI cases.

My take, a lot of this will fizzle out as there are problems with the FBI case. Some will be affected (and some already have) but not sure how much each institution will eventually suffer.

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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 8 months 4 weeks ago #296197

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Who knows to what extent it is true but the NCAA previously stated that they were restricted by the FBI from taking actions towards the school(s) under FBI investigation. But this is their position so don't expect anything from NCAA until the FBI has actually made convictions. Short of that the NCAA will simply fall back on the hands tied/innocent until proven guilty for big money schools. There is no real precedent for major criminal investigation preceding NCAA boondoggle sideshow. However past history for the NCAA specifically, would be that any big money school caught in a situation that they can't ignore (and they will try that first), will get a public penalty when they have no other choice. That will later be minimized. Any other school crucified and made example of.
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Recruiting Impact on “Scandal Schools” 8 months 4 weeks ago #296200

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Paul Massell wrote: Who knows to what extent it is true but the NCAA previously stated that they were restricted by the FBI from taking actions towards the school(s) under FBI investigation. But this is their position so don't expect anything from NCAA until the FBI has actually made convictions. Short of that the NCAA will simply fall back on the hands tied/innocent until proven guilty for big money schools. There is no real precedent for major criminal investigation preceding NCAA boondoggle sideshow. However past history for the NCAA specifically, would be that any big money school caught in a situation that they can't ignore (and they will try that first), will get a public penalty when they have no other choice. That will later be minimized. Any other school crucified and made example of.


Its not just their position. That is usually how it works even if the case involves another or multiple other law enforcement jurisdictions (which the NCAA is not).
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SJU85 wrote: Its not just their position. That is usually how it works even if the case involves another or multiple other law enforcement jurisdictions (which the NCAA is not).


A criminal prosecution would be more restrictive than a civil one. There is gray area but the NCAA arrangement with schools would be civil and thus they would have more recourse to investigate and find justification for penalites than would criminal prosecutors. For example OJ Simpson being found innocent of murder in criminal court but found responsible and given financial judgements in civil court.
But I would suspect that rather than approaching it that way, the NCAA would take the opportunity of any lack of criminal conviction, to beg off investigating one of their lucrative business partners and use that as the excuse.
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