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2020 Jets 1 month 21 hours ago #398589

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Its really strange that the Jets are running what seems to be the same offense as they did under Todd Bowles except the Gase version is even worse. Brilliant offensive mind anyone?

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2020 Jets 1 month 20 hours ago #398592

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Spocky Ramone wrote: The Jets have made 2 quality head coaching hires in the last 20 years. One was essentially Bobby Valentine, and the other won 6 Super Bowls, proof they aren’t always completely incompetent.


Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

The day the six Super Bowl winner was promoted to Head Coach, he was already out the door as he knew what laid ahead, hence his only lasting a day.
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bamafan wrote:

Spocky Ramone wrote: The Jets have made 2 quality head coaching hires in the last 20 years. One was essentially Bobby Valentine, and the other won 6 Super Bowls, proof they aren’t always completely incompetent.

But the one that won 6 SBs they couldn't even keep for one day because of their incompetence.

I wrote “hiring”. Now, “retention”, that’s a whole different thing...
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SJU85 wrote:

Spocky Ramone wrote: The Jets have made 2 quality head coaching hires in the last 20 years. One was essentially Bobby Valentine, and the other won 6 Super Bowls, proof they aren’t always completely incompetent.


Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

The day the six Super Bowl winner was promoted to Head Coach, he was already out the door as he knew what laid ahead, hence his only lasting a day.

Or in this case, once a decade
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2020 Jets 1 month 17 hours ago #398609

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Spocky Ramone wrote:

bamafan wrote:

Spocky Ramone wrote: The Jets have made 2 quality head coaching hires in the last 20 years. One was essentially Bobby Valentine, and the other won 6 Super Bowls, proof they aren’t always completely incompetent.

But the one that won 6 SBs they couldn't even keep for one day because of their incompetence.

I wrote “hiring”. Now, “retention”, that’s a whole different thing...

"retention" lol I've retained hookers longer than that! (JK)

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2020 Jets 3 weeks 6 days ago #398838

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This man has talent. Why are his top three receivers right now Chris Hogan, Josh Malone and Braxton Berrios? I didn’t even know who Josh Malone was until last Sunday

I know a lot of people like what Joe Douglas is doing, hording draft picks... but he said he believes Darnold is a franchise QB. Why is he hanging him out to dry? Surely he didn’t think drafting Denzel Mims was enough...?
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This man has talent. Why are his top three receivers right now Chris Hogan, Josh Malone and Braxton Berrios? I didn’t even know who Josh Malone was until last Sunday

I know a lot of people like what Joe Douglas is doing, hording draft picks... but he said he believes Darnold is a franchise QB. Why is he hanging him out to dry? Surely he didn’t think drafting Denzel Mims was enough...?


Building an NFL franchise to a high level isn't an overnight process. Its nearly impossible to go from one of the worst rosters in the sport to one of the better ones in 1 or even 2 seasons.

Look at Miami...they stripped it all the way down last year to bare bones and had a very good (according to the pundits) FA period and draft. Still going to be a bad football team that at best could flirt with .500 but is at least another year away from making any serious noise.

So year one was a write off to acquire draft capital. Year two is about developing the young talent they brought in this past offseason and improving on 5 wins from last year. , Year three will be about filling the holes in the roster to the point of being a playoff team. Of course that rebuild will start again in year 4 or 5 if Tua turns out to be a bust.

I agree that Darnold has talent and its hard to judge him with so little talent around him. I think if you have the QB, the rebuild is quicker then 3 years provided you have a coach and GM. Not sure you have that at this point, and changing coaches/GM's would likely mean they move on from Darnold and start all over. It's like Ground Hog's day when you are a bad team with bad front office/coaches.

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It's funny how so many people are left scratching their heads at his lack of weapons. The Jets are so stupid, it's seriously as if they actively want a terrible offense for the past 20 yrs. We let Anderson go (only WR with pulse), and replaced him with no one. We never draft them in 1st round either or RB's. We always rely on trying to find "diamonds in the rough" in the 2nd round or later who end up getting hurt or complete busts. We never sign WR's in their prime either. If we do get any big names, it's in the latter part of their career and they never do anything. Other teams draft 1st round weapons to pair with their 1st round QB's. Dez Bryant, Amari Cooper, OBJ, Zeke, Fournette, Saquon, Julio Jones, REAL PLAYERS! And they need to be paid. But the Jets never pay anyone. Even the best safety in the NFL they drafted. The draft picks that do work out and succeed here don't get paid and then leave...and the ones that don't work out get cut. That's why we are here. Santana Moss was the last true offensive weapon the Jets drafted in 1st round. 19 years ago in 2001. Since then it's been nothing but defense and line.

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2020 Jets 3 weeks 2 days ago #398999

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I think the one group of fans that has less patience than redmen fans are Jets fans, they cannot even be honest with themselves.
1) everyone knew we had a 3 year rebuild. Everyone also knew we had the worst OL in football and Joe D believes in a solid offensive line. Sureing up the line in free agency and getting Beckton with the first pick was more important than landing a receiver. We need lots of bodies and it is not a one year fix. Go back to 2006 (last time we started being competitive) we got both Brick and Mangold.

2) very few 1st round receivers are worth it Maybe one every 2 years. Just as many 2nd and 3rd rounders become productive starters than1st rounders. If you look from 2010 the success rate is less than 30%. OL and edge rusher then CB seem to be much safer long term picks.

3) never draft a running back in the first round unless you are KC and set everywhere. RB has the shortest life in the NFL. There also productive backs in almost every round. If there is a Peterson or a Dickerson you may make an exception but as a general rule OL edge and corner back.

4) as much as I love Jamal Adams he did not want to be here and we were not going to pay him 20 -25 million a year for a safety. Yes that is what it would take to sign him. He cared more about he "Brand" than he did the team.

5) if you were honest when the schedule came out the first 6 games went down as losses.. What did you expect with no training camp, a mostly new team and ol and lack of weapons. JD did try to improve the reciveres with perriman, dotson, and mills (all better than Anderson im my opinion who diapered for large parts of games because he was moping about not getting targets) God pissed on us this year with all the injuries to WR's

So we suck gase gets fired and we have the first pick. If JD hires the right coach and they both think Darnold is good do you take the number one pick and get the franchise qb or trade it (trade darnold for a 4th maybe) and try for the huge haul (2 firsts this year 2 seconds and a first next year) own the draft with 3 firsts and 4 seconds and finally land our edge and some wr's (a better class than this year)

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