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2020 NY Mets Season 1 year 1 day ago #395074

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Cespedes is out of his mind for taking issue with being benched de to 15 strikeouts in 31 at bats. While I'd agree someone of his stature be given a little more leeway than a bad start, he had been horrid. To quit and use Covid as a reason won't help him one bit in securing a contract for next season. Someone will likely sign him, but instead of gutting it out, putting up decent numbers and nailing another large contract to DH, he mostly damaged himself.

Still and all another crazy event for a snakebitten franchise.
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There's a reason why Cespedes has been on so many teams in a short period of time
He is talented but a real knucklehead

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2020 NY Mets Season 11 months 3 weeks ago #395660

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Mets announce that Marcus Stroman has opted out of this season

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Paultzman wrote: Mets announce that Marcus Stroman has opted out of this season


It isn't just the Mets. The wheels are coming off of this season for MLB. This is a highly infectious disease, and there may soon be a floodgate of opt outs that end the season.

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2020 NY Mets Season 11 months 3 weeks ago #395666

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Beast of the East wrote:

Paultzman wrote: Mets announce that Marcus Stroman has opted out of this season


It isn't just the Mets. The wheels are coming off of this season for MLB. This is a highly infectious disease, and there may soon be a floodgate of opt outs that end the season.


I hope the NFL is paying attention to how MLB has blown their chance, and how the NBA and NHL are positioned to pull off their reboot successfully.

If I'm Roger Goodell I set it up this way:
1- I move all Thursday and Monday games to Saturday (once the college football season is moved to the spring).
2- Each team will be required to house their players in a bubble environment for the season. Can't put the whole league in one location, so each franchise needs to find a local resort and lock it down for the remainder of the year. Violating the bubble as a player means out for the year, no pay, and no accrued season.
3- Each team should have those 10 minute testing solutions the White House uses for people meeting the POTUS. Test every player daily, especially on days of travel for away games.
4- No overnight stays in away cities. Travel and play on the same day. Return to the plane and fly home after. Yes, its a disadvantage. But playing on the road has always been that, and these are unprecedented times.

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2020 NY Mets Season 11 months 3 weeks ago #395670

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Problem is NHL and NBA were limited time engagements just to finish the season.
Even when next NHL and NBA season rolls around I doubt the players will want to do a bubble. I think if NFL did a bubble even MORE players would opt out

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2020 NY Mets Season 11 months 3 weeks ago #395671

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SJUFAN2 wrote:

Beast of the East wrote:

Paultzman wrote: Mets announce that Marcus Stroman has opted out of this season


It isn't just the Mets. The wheels are coming off of this season for MLB. This is a highly infectious disease, and there may soon be a floodgate of opt outs that end the season.


I hope the NFL is paying attention to how MLB has blown their chance, and how the NBA and NHL are positioned to pull off their reboot successfully.

If I'm Roger Goodell I set it up this way:
1- I move all Thursday and Monday games to Saturday (once the college football season is moved to the spring).
2- Each team will be required to house their players in a bubble environment for the season. Can't put the whole league in one location, so each franchise needs to find a local resort and lock it down for the remainder of the year. Violating the bubble as a player means out for the year, no pay, and no accrued season.
3- Each team should have those 10 minute testing solutions the White House uses for people meeting the POTUS. Test every player daily, especially on days of travel for away games.
4- No overnight stays in away cities. Travel and play on the same day. Return to the plane and fly home after. Yes, its a disadvantage. But playing on the road has always been that, and these are unprecedented times.

By and large I agree, but I think they need to move all of the teams to one general area with multiple pro/college stadiums (North Carolina or Florida maybe) that are reasonably accessible by bus. Play multiple games at each venue on Saturday and Sunday. It would be an expanded bubble.
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Moose wrote: Problem is NHL and NBA were limited time engagements just to finish the season.
Even when next NHL and NBA season rolls around I doubt the players will want to do a bubble. I think if NFL did a bubble even MORE players would opt out


I'm sure you are right. But without a bubble, the NFL is absolutely going to have the same problems that baseball has experienced.
Just look at the Indians. Pleasac and Clevinger couldn't resist the urge to break MLB's quarantine even though one of their top pitchers/teammates had leukemia last year and their beloved manager is in the high risk category with underlying conditions.
the NFL is going to have 80 guys to draw from during their season. No way there aren't going to be multiple Pleasac's & Clevinger's on each NFL team.

I don't see how they get in a full season without each team having its own bubble. If people want to opt out because of that...ok. I'd rather have a season with a bunch of almost NFL level players than no season.

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Spocky Ramone wrote:

SJUFAN2 wrote:

Beast of the East wrote:

Paultzman wrote: Mets announce that Marcus Stroman has opted out of this season


It isn't just the Mets. The wheels are coming off of this season for MLB. This is a highly infectious disease, and there may soon be a floodgate of opt outs that end the season.


I hope the NFL is paying attention to how MLB has blown their chance, and how the NBA and NHL are positioned to pull off their reboot successfully.

If I'm Roger Goodell I set it up this way:
1- I move all Thursday and Monday games to Saturday (once the college football season is moved to the spring).
2- Each team will be required to house their players in a bubble environment for the season. Can't put the whole league in one location, so each franchise needs to find a local resort and lock it down for the remainder of the year. Violating the bubble as a player means out for the year, no pay, and no accrued season.
3- Each team should have those 10 minute testing solutions the White House uses for people meeting the POTUS. Test every player daily, especially on days of travel for away games.
4- No overnight stays in away cities. Travel and play on the same day. Return to the plane and fly home after. Yes, its a disadvantage. But playing on the road has always been that, and these are unprecedented times.

By and large I agree, but I think they need to move all of the teams to one general area with multiple pro/college stadiums (North Carolina or Florida maybe) that are reasonably accessible by bus. Play multiple games at each venue on Saturday and Sunday. It would be an expanded bubble.


I don't think that would work. You'd have to eliminate any stadium with real grass. If you played two or three games a day on back to back days in those facilities the fields would breakdown and would become more hazardous to a players future career than COVID.

32 teams. In order to play two games on Saturday and two games on Sunday you'd need 4 NFL level facilities in the same area that don't have grass fields and you need a resort(s) where you can bubble the players and staff at that could also handle 3,000+ people. I'm not sure that situation exists.

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2020 NY Mets Season 11 months 3 weeks ago #395751

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Bottom line - from the small sample size that we can draw from - leagues playing in a bubble (NBA and NHL) seem to be working out pretty well so far. Leagues that don't play in a bubble (MLB) is experiencing much more difficulty.

Football, just by nature of how the game is played, would seem to generate more potential issues than any of the other major sports. Adding a "non bubble" environment to the equation, makes it more susceptible to COVID concerns IMO. I just can't see the NFL successfully making it through an entire season.

By the way, MLB is exploring the possibility of utilizing a bubble type format for the playoffs

www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29636757/sou...type-format-playoffs

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