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Roster 2 weeks 1 day ago #284616

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Enright wrote: Will the addition of Dixon and Figueroa make 17-18 one of the very few years that SJU can perform at an even level with opponents in making three point shots?
The three point shot has become more and more important in college bb and SJU has almost never been able to make it a significant part of its' offense.

Um don't want to alarm you but we are already into 2018. ;) :) Think you mean 2018-19. If i am wrong someone please advise because then I will be alarmed. :lol:

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Enright wrote: Will the addition of Dixon and Figueroa make 17-18 one of the very few years that SJU can perform at an even level with opponents in making three point shots?
The three point shot has become more and more important in college bb and SJU has almost never been able to make it a significant part of its' offense.


I think it will be. Clark hit 3's at a pretty good clip last season, Ponds percentage I believe will improve and Trimble has the ability also. You add Dixon and Figgy and I think that could be the case.


Ponds, hopefully returns and again hits 3s at his 37%+ clip in his freshman year. Dixon hit 3s at a 37% rate his freshman year; Clark was at 41% last year; Simon in a small sample size also was at 41%. Figgy shot the lights out in JUCO last year, 48%+ from beyond the arc and 59%+ from 2-pt range.
So, it’s looking good for St. John’s from beyond the arc in 2018-19. Should be a very high-powered offense, with Shamorie.

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Everybody loving the three point shot....huh? Sure hope they make them. Certainly won't be cleaning up on the boards.

I wonder if a more balanced attack would be wise? ......Nah, silly me.
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JohnnyFan wrote: Everybody loving the three point shot....huh? Sure hope they make them. Certainly won't be cleaning up on the boards.

I wonder if a more balanced attack would be wise? ......Nah, silly me.


Plus an inside out game with post players of consequence is a key element of three point shooting success. I know some guys have penciled in Keita as capable inside threat, but let’s see. Of course the grad big “ghost” may have helped in this regard also. Oh well.
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Paultzman wrote:

JohnnyFan wrote: Everybody loving the three point shot....huh? Sure hope they make them. Certainly won't be cleaning up on the boards.

I wonder if a more balanced attack would be wise? ......Nah, silly me.


Plus an inside out game with post players of consequence is a key element of three point shooting success. I know some guys have penciled in Keita as capable inside threat, but let’s see. Of course the grad big “ghost” may have helped in this regard also. Oh well.


I get it that an inside post presence on the offensive end would be nice, but that's not the style of play that Chris favors. He wants versatile quick players who can play multiple positions, create in the open court, slash to the basket and hit outside shots. A lot of potential recruits cite the fact that he runs a pro style offense and the game is more free-flowing. That's the way this roster is set up.

Didn't at least one potential late signing period big shy away when he realized he wouldn't be getting touches in the paint? That's why TO pulled up stakes and headed out because he and Daddy wanted to hoist up jumpers and 3 pointers and there were at least three guys who, justifiably so, were going to take priority.

Instead of harping on the lack of big men give this team a chance, there's some nice pieces in place for next year, especially if Shamorie returns.
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Section9 wrote:

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JohnnyFan wrote: Everybody loving the three point shot....huh? Sure hope they make them. Certainly won't be cleaning up on the boards.

I wonder if a more balanced attack would be wise? ......Nah, silly me.


Plus an inside out game with post players of consequence is a key element of three point shooting success. I know some guys have penciled in Keita as capable inside threat, but let’s see. Of course the grad big “ghost” may have helped in this regard also. Oh well.


I get it that an inside post presence on the offensive end would be nice, but that's not the style of play that Chris favors. He wants versatile quick players who can play multiple positions, create in the open court, slash to the basket and hit outside shots. A lot of potential recruits cite the fact that he runs a pro style offense and the game is more free-flowing. That's the way this roster is set up.

Didn't at least one potential late signing period big shy away when he realized he wouldn't be getting touches in the paint? That's why TO pulled up stakes and headed out because he and Daddy wanted to hoist up jumpers and 3 pointers and there were at least three guys who, justifiably so, were going to take priority.

Instead of harping on the lack of big men give this team a chance, there's some nice pieces in place for next year, especially if Shamorie returns.


The fact that Matt pursued two talented ready to play bigs even before Owens left confirms staff felt there was a need. The Cameroon kid who committed to UNLV was high on their list because he could help on both ends of court. I get why you are tired of this discussion, but also understand the disappointment of others. We fanned two years in a row on a grad big and hard to be happy about that.
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Paultzman wrote: Section9 wrote:
Paultzman wrote:
JohnnyFan wrote: Everybody loving the three point shot....huh? Sure hope they make them. Certainly won't be cleaning up on the boards.

I wonder if a more balanced attack would be wise? ......Nah, silly me.

Plus an inside out game with post players of consequence is a key element of three point shooting success. I know some guys have penciled in Keita as capable inside threat, but let’s see. Of course the grad big “ghost” may have helped in this regard also. Oh well.


I get it that an inside post presence on the offensive end would be nice, but that's not the style of play that Chris favors. He wants versatile quick players who can play multiple positions, create in the open court, slash to the basket and hit outside shots. A lot of potential recruits cite the fact that he runs a pro style offense and the game is more free-flowing. That's the way this roster is set up.

Didn't at least one potential late signing period big shy away when he realized he wouldn't be getting touches in the paint? That's why TO pulled up stakes and headed out because he and Daddy wanted to hoist up jumpers and 3 pointers and there were at least three guys who, justifiably so, were going to take priority.

Instead of harping on the lack of big men give this team a chance, there's some nice pieces in place for next year, especially if Shamorie returns.


The fact that Matt pursued two talented ready to play bigs even before Owens left confirms staff felt there was a need. The Cameroon kid who committed to UNLV was high on their list because he could help on both ends of court. I get why you are tired of this discussion, but also understand the disappointment of others. We fanned two years in a row on a grad big and hard to be happy about that.

I will be very happy if I'm proven wrong, but expect the lack of a second big will come back to bite us on several occasions next season.
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NCJohnnie wrote: I will be very happy if I'm proven wrong, but expect the lack of a second big will come back to bite us on several occasions next season.


It'll be extremely painful if we have a high-octane offense and play exceptionally well all year, only to come to a grinding halt in the Sweet Sixteen because a flavor of the month mid-major has a big man who we couldn't stop.
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L J S A wrote:

NCJohnnie wrote: I will be very happy if I'm proven wrong, but expect the lack of a second big will come back to bite us on several occasions next season.


It's be extremely painful if we have a high-octane offense and play exceptionally well all year, only to come to a grinding halt in the Sweet Sixteen because a flavor of the month mid-major has a big man who we couldn't stop.


I would be extremely happy to be in the Sweet Sixteen, wouldn't you?

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OhioFan wrote:

L J S A wrote:

NCJohnnie wrote: I will be very happy if I'm proven wrong, but expect the lack of a second big will come back to bite us on several occasions next season.


It's be extremely painful if we have a high-octane offense and play exceptionally well all year, only to come to a grinding halt in the Sweet Sixteen because a flavor of the month mid-major has a big man who we couldn't stop.


I would be extremely happy to be in the Sweet Sixteen, wouldn't you?


Such a feat, would mark the 2nd time since 1999, St. John’s will have posted a winning record in the NCAAs.
We lost to Ohio State in the Elite 8 that year.
So, I hear you, OhioFan.
Good point.
But, any loss bites to us fans!
I still grate at that loss.
I know, I know: get a life.
Point taken!
Realistically speaking, that would mark a successful season—hopefully the start of consistent success in the NCAAs.

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