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Mullin 1 month 1 week ago #280464

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we are sju wrote: The only thing people should be worried about is Ponds coming back. If he does we will sneak into tourney and everyone can take one year off from worrying and complaining.


Even with Ponds back, who are our bigs? Keita and Roberts are supposed to be very raw. Diakate is recovering from a pretty significant injury and is an OSNA kid which means he's also raw. Yakwe and Owens left. We still haven't gotten any grad transfers. Even if Ponds has a NPOY type season, I have a hard time believing we make the tourney next year even totally healthy without a real assistant coach and at least 2 real bigs added.


Keita will get 7 and 6.
That matches Owens. ...

7 and 6 in how many minutes? And is matching Owen's stats good enough? (We finished last in the BE with Owens' 7 and 6.) And who'll be his back up? What if he turns out to be a foul machine who sits out a lot of minutes? We didn't have a decent back-up big last year (unless you consider Amar decent) and that too contributed to our last-place finish. Bottom line: Getting a transfer like Femi is critical if we're going to finish higher next year, let alone dream of Dancing.
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Mullin 1 month 1 week ago #280466

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redken wrote:

we are sju wrote:

Mike Zaun wrote:

we are sju wrote: The only thing people should be worried about is Ponds coming back. If he does we will sneak into tourney and everyone can take one year off from worrying and complaining.


Even with Ponds back, who are our bigs? Keita and Roberts are supposed to be very raw. Diakate is recovering from a pretty significant injury and is an OSNA kid which means he's also raw. Yakwe and Owens left. We still haven't gotten any grad transfers. Even if Ponds has a NPOY type season, I have a hard time believing we make the tourney next year even totally healthy without a real assistant coach and at least 2 real bigs added.


Keita will get 7 and 6.
That matches Owens. ...

7 and 6 in how many minutes? And is matching Owen's stats good enough? (We finished last in the BE with Owens' 7 and 6.) And who'll be his back up? What if he turns out to be a foul machine who sits out a lot of minutes? We didn't have a decent back-up big last year (unless you consider Amar decent) and that too contributed to our last-place finish. Bottom line: Getting a transfer like Femi is critical if we're going to finish higher next year, let alone dream of Dancing.


Obviously going to be perimeter orientated team. Perimeter players will be good enough in a weaker BE to finish at 9-9. Ponds comes back we go 9-9 in BE, Ponds BE POY and we lose 8-9 game in tourney.
Owens was a force on D and that will be missed. But we will have enough to make Tourney.

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Also, aside from the 8 pts and 6 rbds. Owens gave us, let's not forget the 3 blocks and countless shot alterations he gave us on defense. That will be harder to replace.
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NCJohnnie wrote: Also, aside from the 8 pts and 6 rbds. Owens gave us, let's not forget the 3 blocks and countless shot alterations her gave us on defense. That will be harder to replace.

Something also to be said for continuity & core players experience with each other.
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NCJohnnie wrote: Also, aside from the 8 pts and 6 rbds. Owens gave us, let's not forget the 3 blocks and countless shot alterations he gave us on defense. That will be harder to replace.


Honestly on D is really only place he will be missed. However I think Vinnie said it best:

Vinnie: Well, you know what I mean. He's gone, and we couldn't do nothing about it.

[pause]

Vinnie: That's it.

Jimmy Conway: What d'you mean? What d'you mean? Uh...

Vinnie: He's gone. Uh, he's gone.

[pause]

Vinnie: And that's it!
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Paultzman wrote:

NCJohnnie wrote: Also, aside from the 8 pts and 6 rbds. Owens gave us, let's not forget the 3 blocks and countless shot alterations her gave us on defense. That will be harder to replace.

Something also to be said for continuity & core players experience with each other.


Ponds, Clark, Simon!
If Coach Dale were coaching I believe he would say this:

I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. These three individuals have made a choice to work, a choice to sacrifice, to put themselves on the line 32 nights for the next 4 months, to represent you the worst fan base in sports history. That kind of commitment and effort deserves and demands your respect. This is your team!

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we are sju wrote:

NCJohnnie wrote: Also, aside from the 8 pts and 6 rbds. Owens gave us, let's not forget the 3 blocks and countless shot alterations he gave us on defense. That will be harder to replace.


Honestly on D is really only place he will be missed. However I think Vinnie said it best:

Vinnie: Well, you know what I mean. He's gone, and we couldn't do nothing about it.

[pause]

Vinnie: That's it.

Jimmy Conway: What d'you mean? What d'you mean? Uh...

Vinnie: He's gone. Uh, he's gone.

[pause]

Vinnie: And that's it!

We’ll hire “Spider” as new recruiter shooting ourselves in the foot. :)

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Paultzman wrote:

we are sju wrote:

NCJohnnie wrote: Also, aside from the 8 pts and 6 rbds. Owens gave us, let's not forget the 3 blocks and countless shot alterations he gave us on defense. That will be harder to replace.


Honestly on D is really only place he will be missed. However I think Vinnie said it best:

Vinnie: Well, you know what I mean. He's gone, and we couldn't do nothing about it.

[pause]

Vinnie: That's it.

Jimmy Conway: What d'you mean? What d'you mean? Uh...

Vinnie: He's gone. Uh, he's gone.

[pause]

Vinnie: And that's it!

We’ll hire “Spider” as new recruiter shooting ourselves in the foot. :)


Thought Matt was Spider? Or is ST Jean?
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Players are said to read this Board. Does Staff? Boggles my mind, that Mullin was not on campus for Femi's visit. Femi O is our best shot for a quality Grad Big and according to Paultz has two 'other' local schools in the hunt.
What the hell...?
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Mullin 1 month 1 week ago #280480

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Well said - chronological commentary. One of the key attributes mentioned when CM was hired and added Mitch R to the staff was that these 2 former NBA greats would be able to use THAT experience to sell recruits on choosing St. John's. I know some mentioned that "todays players" were too young to remember C & M, but serious H.S. players have instant access to video on the Dream Teams, NBA All Star & NBA -Play-off games. Selling THAT should be an ACE in the hole on convincing a recruit "I/WE can get you to the next level". Let's be honest here, The BEST players who the top programs go after have that mind set of getting to that NBA level when they look at what School (ST.JOHN'S) & League (BIG EAST) they will choose.
That said, if you have to be IN IT to WIN IT- then YOU HAVE TO BE ON CAMPUS WHEN A TOP RECRUIT COMES TO VISIT. Unless CM had a family or medical emergency, missed a flight etc., it's hard to come up with a reasonable explanation for his reported recent absence. That GREAT personal practice work ethic, dedication to his game & TEAM while a player will always be respected. He's a COACH now & he's the one who sets the tone for THE PROGRAM. That means leading by words & ACTIONS, not relying on his reputation. St. John's fans are not asking for the impossible when they simply expect you to DO YOUR JOB!
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