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2018/19 Schedule 3 months 3 weeks ago #282836

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Anyone else not impressed so far? Don't get me wrong, I want to have a good OOC record but no one will watch the St. Francis, Sacred Heart, etc. games. Cal? Come on...I'd rather play a few major programs that get eyeballs. Why can't we get a Texas or Michigan...or Gonzaga? Florida State? At least those programs matter and they're familiar brands. I just feel like we schedule too many cupcakes and the pressure is on us not to lose instead of to win. Remember, the Big East is way weaker next year.

Never made sense to me especially at the MSG Holiday Festival scheduling garbage opponents year after year. Imagine St. John's vs. Gonzaga MSG Holiday Festival instead. Seeing the schedule thus far (pretty easy OOC) plus a much weaker Big East...if Ponds stays and we somehow get a mystery big and assistant coach, there's no reason we shouldn't finish top 5 at worst. Sounds like Ponds is leaning towards leaving though...he wants to move his family out and cash in instantly. Delayed gratification is just not a virtue anymore. He clearly needs one more year to be a 1st rounder, but kids get blinded by the money even if it's not the best they can get.
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2018/19 Schedule 3 months 3 weeks ago #282839

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Mike Zaun wrote: Anyone else not impressed so far? Don't get me wrong, I want to have a good OOC record but no one will watch the St. Francis, Sacred Heart, etc. games. Cal? Come on...I'd rather play a few major programs that get eyeballs. Why can't we get a Texas or Michigan...or Gonzaga? Florida State? At least those programs matter and they're familiar brands. I just feel like we schedule too many cupcakes and the pressure is on us not to lose instead of to win. Remember, the Big East is way weaker next year.

Never made sense to me especially at the MSG Holiday Festival scheduling garbage opponents year after year. Imagine St. John's vs. Gonzaga MSG Holiday Festival instead. Seeing the schedule thus far (pretty easy OOC) plus a much weaker Big East...if Ponds stays and we somehow get a mystery big and assistant coach, there's no reason we shouldn't finish top 5 at worst. Sounds like Ponds is leaning towards leaving though...he wants to move his family out and cash in instantly. Delayed gratification is just not a virtue anymore. He clearly needs one more year to be a 1st rounder, but kids get blinded by the money even if it's not the best they can get.


You know we have to go to Duke next year right? Not including we have to play the Big Ten as well.

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2018/19 Schedule 3 months 3 weeks ago #282841

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Mike Zaun wrote: Anyone else not impressed so far? Don't get me wrong, I want to have a good OOC record but no one will watch the St. Francis, Sacred Heart, etc. games. Cal? Come on...I'd rather play a few major programs that get eyeballs. Why can't we get a Texas or Michigan...or Gonzaga? Florida State? At least those programs matter and they're familiar brands. I just feel like we schedule too many cupcakes and the pressure is on us not to lose instead of to win. Remember, the Big East is way weaker next year.

Never made sense to me especially at the MSG Holiday Festival scheduling garbage opponents year after year. Imagine St. John's vs. Gonzaga MSG Holiday Festival instead. Seeing the schedule thus far (pretty easy OOC) plus a much weaker Big East...if Ponds stays and we somehow get a mystery big and assistant coach, there's no reason we shouldn't finish top 5 at worst. Sounds like Ponds is leaning towards leaving though...he wants to move his family out and cash in instantly. Delayed gratification is just not a virtue anymore. He clearly needs one more year to be a 1st rounder, but kids get blinded by the money even if it's not the best they can get.


It does not look that strong on the face of it, though some of that can be attributed to the preseason tournament, which does not appear as strong as in recent years (nothing we can do about that).

However, this past year's schedule looked great, and it wound up being significantly less then what we thought going in (a lot of the teams we played in non-conference did not wind up as strong as we thought they would, when we played them). So, it's too early to tell. Heck, November and December might as well prove to be too early to tell.

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2018/19 Schedule 3 months 3 weeks ago #282844

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Sju grad 13 wrote:

Mike Zaun wrote: Anyone else not impressed so far? Don't get me wrong, I want to have a good OOC record but no one will watch the St. Francis, Sacred Heart, etc. games. Cal? Come on...I'd rather play a few major programs that get eyeballs. Why can't we get a Texas or Michigan...or Gonzaga? Florida State? At least those programs matter and they're familiar brands. I just feel like we schedule too many cupcakes and the pressure is on us not to lose instead of to win. Remember, the Big East is way weaker next year.

Never made sense to me especially at the MSG Holiday Festival scheduling garbage opponents year after year. Imagine St. John's vs. Gonzaga MSG Holiday Festival instead. Seeing the schedule thus far (pretty easy OOC) plus a much weaker Big East...if Ponds stays and we somehow get a mystery big and assistant coach, there's no reason we shouldn't finish top 5 at worst. Sounds like Ponds is leaning towards leaving though...he wants to move his family out and cash in instantly. Delayed gratification is just not a virtue anymore. He clearly needs one more year to be a 1st rounder, but kids get blinded by the money even if it's not the best they can get.


You know we have to go to Duke next year right? Not including we have to play the Big Ten as well.


Joe3's post is pretty ludicrous given that 4 of the only 7 announced games are against high majors/upper mid majors, if not necessarily world beaters. Three cupcake games so far, including the on campus Tourney game. Memo to Joe. There will be more cupcakes. There may also be more high majors. There's 6 gamest still to be announced, however there's no reason for any team to play 10 OOC games against top 25 teams.

FWIW right now the schedule includes: Duke, Ga Tech, and 2 of Cal/VCU/Temple. Those Legend Classic games are part of a tourney. I am sure it's not hard to understand why St. Johns is not a target participant for some of the bigger tourneys right now. And the Holiday Fest, now that it's one game during finals week, is attractive to exactly 0% of good teams. MSG offers the top teams a lot of other options to play there at better times in better tourneys.

However, re SJU Grad 13's response, I think I read that STJ may be one of the two teams not participating in the Gavitt Games vs. the B1G this year. Creighton, Depaul, Providence and St Johns are the 4 teams who have participated every year so far so it will almost certainly be two of those, but I thought I read that it's pretty certain to be this year.
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2018/19 Schedule 3 months 3 weeks ago #282845

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Duke is 1 game...and who are we playing in the B1G? I mean, why can't we throw in a few teams like Florida, Indiana, etc.? Real brands.

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Mike Zaun wrote: Duke is 1 game...and who are we playing in the B1G? I mean, why can't we throw in a few teams like Florida, Indiana, etc.? Real brands.


Can you go and research a list of teams that play 6 games per year against the types of schools you want them to play and get back to us. Oh and that list can't include any of the teams that are on the list of schools you want to play, that'd be great.

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2018/19 Schedule 3 months 3 weeks ago #282849

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I thought American International was supposed to be a home and home

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2018/19 Schedule 3 months 3 weeks ago #282858

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Big 10 has 14 teams Big East has 10 teams, don't know why they don't just have 10 games per season since the games are all played on home courts and not DHers at more neutral sites (so scheduling problems are minimized). Maybe not enough room on ESPN schedule?

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2018/19 Schedule 3 months 3 weeks ago #282862

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Mike Zaun wrote: Duke is 1 game...and who are we playing in the B1G? I mean, why can't we throw in a few teams like Florida, Indiana, etc.? Real brands.


If you were a Syracuse fan you'd be complaining about playing Colgate, Cornell, Oakland, Texas Southern and Toledo last year.;)

At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

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At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

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Mike Zaun wrote: Anyone else not impressed so far? Don't get me wrong, I want to have a good OOC record but no one will watch the St. Francis, Sacred Heart, etc. games. Cal? Come on...I'd rather play a few major programs that get eyeballs. Why can't we get a Texas or Michigan...or Gonzaga? Florida State? At least those programs matter and they're familiar brands. I just feel like we schedule too many cupcakes and the pressure is on us not to lose instead of to win. Remember, the Big East is way weaker next year.

Never made sense to me especially at the MSG Holiday Festival scheduling garbage opponents year after year. Imagine St. John's vs. Gonzaga MSG Holiday Festival instead. Seeing the schedule thus far (pretty easy OOC) plus a much weaker Big East...if Ponds stays and we somehow get a mystery big and assistant coach, there's no reason we shouldn't finish top 5 at worst. Sounds like Ponds is leaning towards leaving though...he wants to move his family out and cash in instantly. Delayed gratification is just not a virtue anymore. He clearly needs one more year to be a 1st rounder, but kids get blinded by the money even if it's not the best they can get.

You re too young. But the holiday festival used to always have great teams,UNC, etc,

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