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2017-18 Transfers 3 weeks 21 hours ago #287001

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2017-18 Transfers 3 weeks 21 hours ago #287002

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Paultzman wrote:

otis wrote: Two thoughts:

1. Hopefully St. John's retains experienced counsel to guide Mr. Heron's hardship request. Anyone reading this post that has influence with St. John's should suggest to our beloved "Mom & Pop" institution retain Michael Glazier to assist Heron's application. Glazier served seven years on the NCAA staff where, in addition to his primary responsibilities involving infractions, compliance and legislative matters. Now is not the time to have someone with no NCAA contact or experience to assist Mustafa Heron
www.bsk.com/people/mike-glazier/collegiate-sports

2. Again today, much like Wednesday when Shamorie Ponds announced he would return to play next season, this is NOT a good day for the handful of posters on this site who seemingly enjoy negative information regarding St. John's basketball.

Why the need to stir the pot? And you are a moderator? Sheez!


Coming from one who enjoys pot stirring, agree with you wholeheartedly on this one; time for all to just feel good. FWIW, I was told by a pretty connected (CBB not SJU) buddy that there will be no need to hire a lawyer. We shall see.
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2017-18 Transfers 3 weeks 20 hours ago #287003

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Mike Zaun wrote: Family Hardship Waivers

Family hardship waivers are some of the most common and most controversial waivers decided by the NCAA. The reason it is so controversial is many student-athletes in football and basketball request these waivers, and whether one is granted or denied can seem inconsistent.

The key thing to remember is that a student-athlete is arguing that the best thing for the athlete and his or her family is to allow the athlete to play immediately and that the athlete needs to transfer to assist with an ill or injured family member. The NCAA measures this in three areas.

Nature of the injury or illness:

The injury or illness should be life-threatening and involve an immediate family member (parent, legal guardian, or sibling). Waivers that are denied typically involve an extended family member (aunt, uncle, grandparent, etc.) unless that family member raised the student-athlete.

Student-athlete’s responsibilities related to the care of the family member:

The more involved the student-athlete is in the day-to-day care for the family member, the more likely the waiver is to be granted.

Chronology of events:

Waivers are more likely to be granted if something changed that prompted the student-athlete’s transfer like a diagnosis, the actual injury, or a worsening condition. Waivers are less likely to be granted if a family member has been ill or injured for a while, and nothing changed that require the student-athlete to transfer.
When requesting the waiver, the school must submit at least three sets of information, much of which will come from the student-athlete or his or her family:

Documentation from the doctor who diagnosed the family member;
Documentation from the doctor who is currently treating the family member; and
A letter from the student-athlete explaining the need for a waiver.
These documentation standards can be hefty. Medical documentation typically includes both a letter from the doctor and medical documents like charts, treatment orders, and prescriptions.


The part that I don't understand is the part of the waiver that mentions the day-to-day care of the family member. Yes, St Johns is ALOT closer to his home than Auburn, but it is still a decent distance away (I think a previous post mentioned 80+miles).

How much day-to-day care would he actually be able to provide? How much will that matter in the appeal process?

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2017-18 Transfers 3 weeks 20 hours ago #287004

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Do we know if:

His mother's diagnosis changed or preceded his intent to transfer?

If it's life-threatening? I could be wrong but I remember hearing post-concussion syndrome and it can be life-threatening if there was a 2nd concussion. I'm not the resident MD though so no idea. Really hope his mother is doing well and prayers for the family.

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2017-18 Transfers 3 weeks 20 hours ago #287005

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mjmaherjr wrote:

OLV72 wrote:

mjmaherjr wrote: Great week to be a Johnnie fan and Congrats to staff and WELCOME HERON !!!!!!



Are you braving the sauna and showing up in Queens this coming November?

did the school announce backrests yet ? :) Let's not get ahead of ourselves but we can definitely start picking road trips



The backrest in our section are knee caps of the guy sitting behind you.
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2017-18 Transfers 3 weeks 20 hours ago #287006

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OLV72 wrote:

mjmaherjr wrote:

OLV72 wrote:

mjmaherjr wrote: Great week to be a Johnnie fan and Congrats to staff and WELCOME HERON !!!!!!



Are you braving the sauna and showing up in Queens this coming November?

did the school announce backrests yet ? :) Let's not get ahead of ourselves but we can definitely start picking road trips



The backrest in our section are knee caps of the guy sitting behind you.

If you’re lucky, the guy behind you spreads his legs and lets you rest in between.
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2017-18 Transfers 3 weeks 20 hours ago #287007

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OhioFan wrote: Reminds me of a feeling I had about twenty years ago when I was on campus for a visit and wound up with a poster that said "Back Among the Elite".


They still give out that same poster. For the past 19 years it has referred to the Fencing Team,:cheer:

At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
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At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

2017-18 Transfers 3 weeks 20 hours ago #287008

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We got Heron and Ponds. Next news is that Larry Bird and Doc Rivers are joining the staff. I need a fifth current or former player with fowl or water origins. This is what happens when one gets giddy from all the good news.
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2017-18 Transfers 3 weeks 20 hours ago #287012

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Hearing that the Big East is feeling confident about Mustapha being eligible.

On a separate note, think I hit more "Thank You" buttons tonight than I ever have ... and with good reason: a great evening!
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2017-18 Transfers 3 weeks 20 hours ago #287013

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Logen wrote:

Paultzman wrote:

otis wrote: Two thoughts:

1. Hopefully St. John's retains experienced counsel to guide Mr. Heron's hardship request. Anyone reading this post that has influence with St. John's should suggest to our beloved "Mom & Pop" institution retain Michael Glazier to assist Heron's application. Glazier served seven years on the NCAA staff where, in addition to his primary responsibilities involving infractions, compliance and legislative matters. Now is not the time to have someone with no NCAA contact or experience to assist Mustafa Heron
www.bsk.com/people/mike-glazier/collegiate-sports

2. Again today, much like Wednesday when Shamorie Ponds announced he would return to play next season, this is NOT a good day for the handful of posters on this site who seemingly enjoy negative information regarding St. John's basketball.

Why the need to stir the pot? And you are a moderator? Sheez!


Coming from one who enjoys pot stirring, agree with you wholeheartedly on this one; time for all to just feel good. FWIW, I was told by a pretty connected (CBB not SJU) buddy that there will be no need to hire a lawyer. We shall see.


If you are correct and Heron qualifies I will buy you a pale ale at MSG!;)

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At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
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