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SJU's campus and SJU in general 3 weeks 1 day ago #253079

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There's been a lot of talk about the SJU campus, and as one of you commented, maybe you haven't been on campus in a long while.

I've been as critical as anyone on redmen.com concerning the quality of student SJU is attracting and about the school in general. I'm still critical, but recently my outlook has been raised considerably.

As I typically try to do, when we have a position open we post at SJU in their career development office. When we did, we were told there was a jobs fair the following week and would we be interested in exhibiting. The jobs fair was the day after I would arrive home very late at night from a 4 day west coast trip, so I declined. There was a $200 fee per company, which I thought was foolish considering the benefit to the university of hiring their students.

When we declined, we received another offer inviting us to exhibit for free. I was still inclined to decline, but they were so gracious about the offer, decided to accept. They also offered that one of the Deans would like to meet with me if I had time, so we worked that in also.

The jobs fair was in Taffner Field house, which is a really nice building. As with the better conferences we attend, SJu staff was very gracious in helping us get set up, and also came by to thank us for participating. We met some really terrific kids, and offered two of them internships, one that has the potential of FT employment after. These were really bright, personable kids, and would represent SJU well in any era of the school. One was very near the top of his class in pharmacy school, 3.92 GPA in pharmacy, and also is in the President's society, students government, and drama club. The other had a full schoalrship to SJU and was an honors student and Stuyvesant HS grad.

At the conclusion of the jobs fair, someone from career development office personally escorted us to the library, whose exterior is familiar, but on the interior bears no comparison to the library we knew. There is a coffee shop on the first floor which is first class, and the upper floors are now offices which are also first rate. If memory serves me, they used to be classrooms. The Dean was impressive and gracious, and new to SJU. Unlike many academicians, she had solid industry experience and success, had fantastic academic achievements of her own, and was as warm and gracious as could be. Rather than lecture me about the school, she conversed easily and asked my opinions on some of their programs and offerings. She is seriously interested in forging relationships with the local business community to strengthen SJU in all ways.

I am still kind of dumbfounded at the transformation underway, and sheepishly embarrassed that as I have taken shots at the school some very good stuff is happening on campus that will make all alumni very proud of SJU.

I recently hired an older SJU alumnus that was caught in the downsizing of her long term position with an industry struggling to convert to the digital age. I am thrilled to have gotten such a high caliber resource and person. The kids I interviewed at the jobs fair were all terrific students.

If you haven't considered hiring an SJU kid for an internship or FT position, I'd strongly advocate you do both if you are in a position to influence such hirings. I'd also encourage any of you to visit the campus, which is dramatically improved over the campus we attended.
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SJU's campus and SJU in general 3 weeks 1 day ago #253094

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Was in grad school in 2008 and 09, when D'Angelo Center was being completed. I recall that it was a fairly nice campus with lots of new architecture. It was more compact and less sprawling than some of the smaller town big football campuses I've been on. Havent been on campus in a few years however.






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SJU's campus and SJU in general 3 weeks 1 day ago #253103

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And for those knocking Queens let's focus on the area around SJU.

Jamaica Estates - Houses go for $2.5 Million
Fresh Meadows - Houses go for $1.25 Million

On the other hand it's hard to find a house for more than 300K in Athens Georgia, as almost all are cheaper. Simple economics tell you which is a preferable location. Whatever issues the SJU basketball team has, it is not the location of the school. If the basketball team had kept up with the neighborhood SJU would be in the final four year after year.
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SJU's campus and SJU in general 3 weeks 1 day ago #253105

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What I think many people are missing is that every kid is different. Some kids want a nice campus to live on, some want a big city to live in. Some kids want to go away, some want to stay home. Some want good academics, some want good athletics. Some want a winning program, some want the most playing time possible. Every kid is different and it's the staffs job to find out what each kid wants.

As for the campus itself, I graduated in 2014 and it was pretty nice. Nowhere near as nice as some of the other schools I've seen in the area and down south, but nothing to be embarrassed about in a big city.

Some of these kids want a great nightlife with the great weather in Arizona or Florida. That's something that we will never be able to offer. I see Rawle Alkins posting videos and pictures of what goes on at Arizona and there's no comparison. The point is that every kid is different and every school has its advantages and disadvantages. You win some and you lose many with regards to recruiting. Every school goes through the same thing, even some of the blue bloods.
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SJU's campus and SJU in general 3 weeks 1 day ago #253109

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To be honest while we may not have the "most Beautiful" campus it is Nice and pleasant to walk around. The recently added architecture is quite nice. To me the big "No sell" to students is the declining academic rankings and the fact that it is still primarily a commuter school The dorms built in the 90's? we a tremendous help but not enough (IMHO) ...I always thought the ROTC should be moved and the space better utilized for additional dorms. Recruits realize this and simply aren't interested. As far a academics is concerned....it matters! Why would a C student want to go to a C school when their basketball ability can get them into a B+ school and STILL be in a competitive conference and be on TV every game. (Being ranked by US News at 160 or so is a "C" school to the eyes of parents...whether it is or isn't). Those are the facts.
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SJU's campus and SJU in general 3 weeks 1 day ago #253111

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plandome4 wrote:
To be honest while we may not have the "most Beautiful" campus it is Nice and pleasant to walk around. The recently added architecture is quite nice. To me the big "No sell" to students is the declining academic rankings and the fact that it is still primarily a commuter school The dorms built in the 90's? we a tremendous help but not enough (IMHO) ...I always thought the ROTC should be moved and the space better utilized for additional dorms. Recruits realize this and simply aren't interested. As far a academics is concerned....it matters! Why would a C student want to go to a C school when their basketball ability can get them into a B+ school and STILL be in a competitive conference and be on TV every game. (Being ranked by US News at 160 or so is a "C" school to the eyes of parents...whether it is or isn't). Those are the facts.

I think they also lose a chance with many good students who are also good players.
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IDRAFT wrote:
And for those knocking Queens let's focus on the area around SJU.

Jamaica Estates - Houses go for $2.5 Million
Fresh Meadows - Houses go for $1.25 Million

On the other hand it's hard to find a house for more than 300K in Athens Georgia, as almost all are cheaper. Simple economics tell you which is a preferable location. Whatever issues the SJU basketball team has, it is not the location of the school. If the basketball team had kept up with the neighborhood SJU would be in the final four year after year.

I recall parking my crappy car in front of those homes and hoping the locals did not break my motorcycle chain to rip off my battery.

The couple of times it happened the police told me where I could buy it back with free tax advice as well.

I agree that the campus and area is much improved.

I don't agree it's much of a factor in recruiting the top basketball talent in America. It definitely does not go against us.

It seems like we pulled in some good baseball players. And the weather in the northeast sucks.
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SJU's campus and SJU in general 3 weeks 1 day ago #253153

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Thanks Beast, this is one of the reasons I posted the info about the Grand Alumni Weekend. I just convinced my office to bring on 2 SJU students for summer internships (they have never had college interns) and hopefully it will lead to a job in the future.
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IDRAFT wrote:
And for those knocking Queens let's focus on the area around SJU.

Jamaica Estates - Houses go for $2.5 Million
Fresh Meadows - Houses go for $1.25 Million

On the other hand it's hard to find a house for more than 300K in Athens Georgia, as almost all are cheaper. Simple economics tell you which is a preferable location.

The median home price in Paris is $ 120K. The median home price in Commack is 400K. Therefore Commack > Paris.

The median home price in Wyandanch is 200K. The median home price in Chicago is $189K, The median home price in Cairo is $125K. The median house price in Rome is 120K. Therefore Cairo Rome and Chicago < Wyandanch.

Come on.
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