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2017 Transfers 1 week 1 day ago #254279

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austour wrote:
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Steve Knortz wrote:
I am not sure why I am getting called out. I only asked (because I don't know) why we wouldn't be reaching out to every eligible transfer who played forward or center. .

My question to you is what makes you think they are not. You ask that question as if you know the substance of the question to be true. And you didn't do it just once. That's why I called you out.

We all are pretty sure that the staff is reaching out. We even hosted a 7 footer whom " insiders" claimed was only a backup plan. Of course it begs the question "a backup to what or whom" that 3 available scholarships can't seem to accommodate?
Calling out fans for asking WTF is going on is boorish and condescending. This is a forum to share opinions and ask pertinent questions about the basketball program. If the same question is asked many times it is likely because no one has ventured a satisfactory answer for some. If people share the same opinions doesn't make them any more annoying than the fans who continously disagree with that opinion.
There are only a couple of experts that belong to this forum that are very "very" close to the program and coaches and they never post. Everyone else is sharing information second hand. News starved fans will take what they can get and given some of our ages, we will tend to repeat ourselves. So, please be patient. ;)

First, I thought you had boorish and fun had condescending all wrapped up in most people's eyes. Glad I could join the party. Better than being thought of as ignorant and delusional.

I will only state that there's a difference between stating folks uninformed opinions and posing uninformed assumptions as fact. I get it, 99% of the board is uninformed, and that's not a problem. Making uninformed factual assumptions is the problem with me. SKnortz repeating the question obviously assumes as fact that the staff "don't reach out to every eligible transfer". I called him out because he has shared nothing to back up how he came to that assumption yet keeps stating it repeatedly as if its so.

Regarding recruiting difficulties it probably has less to do with effort and more to do with the mix of a low profile university that still, maybe undeservedly, has a commuter school reputation with a low academic profile, in a part of town that only people from Queens consider New York City, with an inexperienced coaching staff that pins much of its hopes on a legend that kids today have never heard of is not going to get serious attention from every possible recruit compared to a large number of other schools in same game. I understand many of those comments may not be fair but I used them to point out that they all hold more factual weight than the assumption that the staff isn't reaching out to all eligible transfers. See how that works.

Yet with all those negatives taken into account, the staff have actually done a pretty good job stocking the roster with quality players from the 1-4. The top 7 of the roster are all either top 100 recruits, JC AAs and/or transfers who at least got some time as frosh/sophs at major college programs. Then there's Fred and Amar who at least are Italian, what's not to love? The one glaring exception being a serviceable big to replace Sima/Willams. I just take exception to the folks who claim this shortfall is due to lack of trying.

PS everyone's hung up on 3 available scholarships. However, until Sima transferred they had -1 scholarship available for 1718, until Brown was arrested they had 0, that was in January. Until Ellison and Williams transferred at the end of March they only had one but by they time they got that one for the Class of '17 and were able to truthfully say they had rides to give it was pretty much over. The transfer game was the great hope and they appear to have gotten at least one good one. And now they look to be getting another top 100 kid late in the game. But the grad transfer big, like you said and everyone agrees, is where there seems to have been the biggest let down. I kind of believe the staff knows that better than any of us but really can 't say that publicly.

Now THAT is a great post!!!
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2017 Transfers 1 week 1 day ago #254283

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Seriously. Do you work ? ( How do you put a smiley face on here )
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2017 Transfers 1 week 1 day ago #254284

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Barely, which reminds me it's time for a long boozy lunch. :P
There have been nearly 3000 Gods so far but only yours actually exists.The others are silly made up nonsense. But not yours. Yours is real.
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2017 Transfers 1 week 1 day ago #254287

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austour wrote:
condescending

"There have been nearly 3000 Gods so far but only yours actually exists.The others are silly made up nonsense. But not yours. Yours is real."

At least my condescension is contemporaneous. Yours is premeditated.
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2017 Transfers 1 week 1 day ago #254290

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Contemporaneous or extemporaneous?
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I'm sure these recruits are concerned about our "Academic Profile ."
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fun wrote:
austour wrote:
condescending

"There have been nearly 3000 Gods so far but only yours actually exists.The others are silly made up nonsense. But not yours. Yours is real."

At least my condescension is contemporaneous. Yours is premeditated.

Guilty as charged!
There have been nearly 3000 Gods so far but only yours actually exists.The others are silly made up nonsense. But not yours. Yours is real.
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Knight wrote:
I'm sure these recruits are concerned about our "Academic Profile ."

Not much but when you roll it all into one big ball . . . just saying.

But you're right, the few that truly do care never even get on STJ's wish list.
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Contemporaneous or extemporaneous?



"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
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