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UConn Still Shopping ? 6 months 1 week ago #247629

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Paultzman wrote:
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I don't like UCONN, i dislike their fans, and I've had strong negative feelings towards the schools that avandoned the BE, especially those with a northeastern location. The ability to concentrate the league within 400 miles of NYC was an amazing era for local competition and made for intense rivalries among mostly smaller private schools.

Having said that a long time ago, involved in a business dispute that went to court, a wise attorney advised, "Always do what's best for yourself, not what's worst for someone else."

Would UCONN strengthen the Big East? If so, the answer is clear, and if admitted, the business part of the deal should include a harsh financial penalty fir withdrawing that would offset any initial financial gain. Bottom line is UCONN would strengthen the conference. As much I would lije them to die a painful bball death, it would be best for us to have them in our conference

League is great in every way. Highest percentage to get into the NCAAs ever. How much stronger does it need to be? St Johns is on a positive trajectory. Yukon is on a downward death spiral. Grass is not always greener. Very short sighted. Big East will continue to thrive and does not need Yukon in any way.

If Wichita State moves to AAC, UCONN may be less inclined to leave.

If Witcha State joins the AAC (which it will) it will be the final nail in the UCONN coffin.
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Paul Massell wrote:
Beast of the East wrote:
I don't like UCONN, i dislike their fans, and I've had strong negative feelings towards the schools that avandoned the BE, especially those with a northeastern location. The ability to concentrate the league within 400 miles of NYC was an amazing era for local competition and made for intense rivalries among mostly smaller private schools.

Having said that a long time ago, involved in a business dispute that went to court, a wise attorney advised, "Always do what's best for yourself, not what's worst for someone else."

Would UCONN strengthen the Big East? If so, the answer is clear, and if admitted, the business part of the deal should include a harsh financial penalty fir withdrawing that would offset any initial financial gain. Bottom line is UCONN would strengthen the conference. As much I would lije them to die a painful bball death, it would be best for us to have them in our conference

League is great in every way. Highest percentage to get into the NCAAs ever. How much stronger does it need to be? St Johns is on a positive trajectory. Yukon is on a downward death spiral. Grass is not always greener. Very short sighted. Big East will continue to thrive and does not need Yukon in any way.

Disagree but respectfully. Uconn bball has been one of the very best programs over the oast 25 years, and in the big east would be in the top half. Their presence wpuld improve league profile and they are in the intended league geography
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Beast of the East wrote:
Paul Massell wrote:
Beast of the East wrote:
I don't like UCONN, i dislike their fans, and I've had strong negative feelings towards the schools that avandoned the BE, especially those with a northeastern location. The ability to concentrate the league within 400 miles of NYC was an amazing era for local competition and made for intense rivalries among mostly smaller private schools.

Having said that a long time ago, involved in a business dispute that went to court, a wise attorney advised, "Always do what's best for yourself, not what's worst for someone else."

Would UCONN strengthen the Big East? If so, the answer is clear, and if admitted, the business part of the deal should include a harsh financial penalty fir withdrawing that would offset any initial financial gain. Bottom line is UCONN would strengthen the conference. As much I would lije them to die a painful bball death, it would be best for us to have them in our conference

League is great in every way. Highest percentage to get into the NCAAs ever. How much stronger does it need to be? St Johns is on a positive trajectory. Yukon is on a downward death spiral. Grass is not always greener. Very short sighted. Big East will continue to thrive and does not need Yukon in any way.

Disagree but respectfully. Uconn bball has been one of the very best programs over the oast 25 years, and in the big east would be in the top half. Their presence wpuld improve league profile and they are in the intended league geography

They don't fit the league profile and are a proven commodity as a scumbag partner that the power conferences have been smart enough to stay away from. Aside from that you are old enough to remember a lot of great programs that were great then not so much. Someone recently said on here that Illinois had no basketball tradition. 25 years ago nobody would have said that. Indiana was arguably the greatest program post UCLA and they are middling now for years. Things change. Yukon is full of crap on every level and I want them to fail but if I thought they were good for St John's, I'd say bring them. They are not. They screwed us in particular at every opportunity. If I were ruling the roost at Villanova, I'd want no part of reviving Yukon. If I were budding midwest partners like Creighton or Butler, I'd not want to see the emphasis you are espousing either.

Big East is doing great and exceeding all expectations and predictions based upon its own unique identity. Pining away for football schools etc is a proven recipe for failure and we are living in the beginnings of a great formula that a few private schools can have success with playing in the big pond. We should be enjoying and strengthening that, not trying to be something else. It should not be messed with trying to emulate the football conferences which as far as St Johns is concerned, will never be part of a successful equation.
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Big East and Midwest schools just proved it can sell out the BET without Uconn. Nova had much to do with it, but there will always be an old guard school in the mix to draw. This is now one less reason we need Uconn

I still see it happening. It's good for business and the only way you grow revenue.
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UConn Still Shopping ? 6 months 1 week ago #247761

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Paultzman wrote:
Paul Massell wrote:
Beast of the East wrote:
I don't like UCONN, i dislike their fans, and I've had strong negative feelings towards the schools that avandoned the BE, especially those with a northeastern location. The ability to concentrate the league within 400 miles of NYC was an amazing era for local competition and made for intense rivalries among mostly smaller private schools.

Having said that a long time ago, involved in a business dispute that went to court, a wise attorney advised, "Always do what's best for yourself, not what's worst for someone else."

Would UCONN strengthen the Big East? If so, the answer is clear, and if admitted, the business part of the deal should include a harsh financial penalty fir withdrawing that would offset any initial financial gain. Bottom line is UCONN would strengthen the conference. As much I would lije them to die a painful bball death, it would be best for us to have them in our conference

League is great in every way. Highest percentage to get into the NCAAs ever. How much stronger does it need to be? St Johns is on a positive trajectory. Yukon is on a downward death spiral. Grass is not always greener. Very short sighted. Big East will continue to thrive and does not need Yukon in any way.

If Wichita State moves to AAC, UCONN may be less inclined to leave.

This move could be a temporary one until the BE and Wichita St get together and work out a deal to bring in the best basketball program in the state of Kansas.

No need to worry about wasting state tax dollars on a pie in the sky idea of elevating a moribund football program. Maybe the conference wants to bring in another program to keep it at an even number (I would still say screw Uconn and wait).

And, if Wichita St. brings its nationally recognized baseball program, it also elevates BE baseball.

Seems like it makes too much sense.
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kranmars wrote:
Paultzman wrote:
Paul Massell wrote:
Beast of the East wrote:
I don't like UCONN, i dislike their fans, and I've had strong negative feelings towards the schools that avandoned the BE, especially those with a northeastern location. The ability to concentrate the league within 400 miles of NYC was an amazing era for local competition and made for intense rivalries among mostly smaller private schools.

Having said that a long time ago, involved in a business dispute that went to court, a wise attorney advised, "Always do what's best for yourself, not what's worst for someone else."

Would UCONN strengthen the Big East? If so, the answer is clear, and if admitted, the business part of the deal should include a harsh financial penalty fir withdrawing that would offset any initial financial gain. Bottom line is UCONN would strengthen the conference. As much I would lije them to die a painful bball death, it would be best for us to have them in our conference

League is great in every way. Highest percentage to get into the NCAAs ever. How much stronger does it need to be? St Johns is on a positive trajectory. Yukon is on a downward death spiral. Grass is not always greener. Very short sighted. Big East will continue to thrive and does not need Yukon in any way.

If Wichita State moves to AAC, UCONN may be less inclined to leave.

This move could be a temporary one until the BE and Wichita St get together and work out a deal to bring in the best basketball program in the state of Kansas.

No need to worry about wasting state tax dollars on a pie in the sky idea of elevating a moribund football program. Maybe the conference wants to bring in another program to keep it at an even number (I would still say screw Uconn and wait).

And, if Wichita St. brings its nationally recognized baseball program, it also elevates BE baseball.

Seems like it makes too much sense.

Omaha Nebraska is far enough to travel and Wichita Kansas is a shit hole in the midwest. No reason to consider them in a conference called the "BIG EAST".
My other concern is Gregg Marshall. Once he leaves what will happen to their basketball profile? I prefer schools with a strong following that will attract fans to MSG. Dayton and VCU fit that profile the best. I suspect those are the two schools at the top of the expansion list.
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I would agree that Wichita State and particularly Gonzaga would be good additions, if their basketball budget isn't several times higher than what St. John's is. The state schools usually have a much higher budget. No way UConn belongs in the BE anymore. They let their lousy football program call the shots. They can lie in that bed forever as far as I'm concerned. Syracuse too. UConn budget is way higher than the current BE schools. They don't fit.
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Prior to the formation of the current big east most observers would have thought that Conn would have been a better addition than the three Midwestern schools. Wrong.
Why bale them out now? If there is going to be expansion bring in Dayton, Wich St etc. When Conn drops football then reconsider
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