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Hire Mike Rice 8 months 4 days ago #234494

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In my opinion I don't think hiring another assistant coach is the issue here. Mullin and Richmond know basketball better than most. As Bill Parcells famously said, "It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's". It's about the players. We need to recruit better players and the players we do have who have the potential to be very good Big East players are very young and need experience. right now we have Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and Mussini who are Big East caliber players and we are bringing in three more next year. Yakwe, Freudenberg, Ellison, Owens and Williams can be good players but need to mature and most of all get more game experience. Mullin started from nothing, literally. we need to bring in more quality players who are Big East ready from the get go like Ponds , Ahmed and Lovett. It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's.

I see your point, but if it was strictly about the players we may as well put Mike Maher on the bench and let our HoF coaches spend all their time with Matt on the recruiting front. Mike can wear himself out jumping out of his seat with his arms raised to the ceiling when ponds and crew hit their threes.

It takes top line players and excellent coaching to win at this level. Top talent can go to waste without excellent coaching. Coaching is much more of a factor than 5 or ten percent.

As others have expressed here, as a fan of the program, I the see improvement in the coaching this year with the exception of the del state no show - and they responded well to that lapse.

It's another year of growth for the team and a new staff.

John Calapari is not known as a great coach when comes to X's and O's. He wins because almost every Kid on his team is a top 20 Kid. He doesn't need to be a great tactician when he's bringing in that kind of talent year in and year out.
So all we have to do is equal Kentucky in recruiting and we should win. ;)
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Mean Gene wrote:
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In my opinion I don't think hiring another assistant coach is the issue here. Mullin and Richmond know basketball better than most. As Bill Parcells famously said, "It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's". It's about the players. We need to recruit better players and the players we do have who have the potential to be very good Big East players are very young and need experience. right now we have Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and Mussini who are Big East caliber players and we are bringing in three more next year. Yakwe, Freudenberg, Ellison, Owens and Williams can be good players but need to mature and most of all get more game experience. Mullin started from nothing, literally. we need to bring in more quality players who are Big East ready from the get go like Ponds , Ahmed and Lovett. It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's.

I see your point, but if it was strictly about the players we may as well put Mike Maher on the bench and let our HoF coaches spend all their time with Matt on the recruiting front. Mike can wear himself out jumping out of his seat with his arms raised to the ceiling when ponds and crew hit their threes.

It takes top line players and excellent coaching to win at this level. Top talent can go to waste without excellent coaching. Coaching is much more of a factor than 5 or ten percent.

As others have expressed here, as a fan of the program, I the see improvement in the coaching this year with the exception of the del state no show - and they responded well to that lapse.

It's another year of growth for the team and a new staff.

John Calapari is not known as a great coach when comes to X's and O's. He wins because almost every Kid on his team is a top 20 Kid. He doesn't need to be a great tactician when he's bringing in that kind of talent year in and year out.
that's kind of an extreme example.

Look what happened with Cuse last year without Boeheim and then with him
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Mean Gene wrote:
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In my opinion I don't think hiring another assistant coach is the issue here. Mullin and Richmond know basketball better than most. As Bill Parcells famously said, "It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's". It's about the players. We need to recruit better players and the players we do have who have the potential to be very good Big East players are very young and need experience. right now we have Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and Mussini who are Big East caliber players and we are bringing in three more next year. Yakwe, Freudenberg, Ellison, Owens and Williams can be good players but need to mature and most of all get more game experience. Mullin started from nothing, literally. we need to bring in more quality players who are Big East ready from the get go like Ponds , Ahmed and Lovett. It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's.

I see your point, but if it was strictly about the players we may as well put Mike Maher on the bench and let our HoF coaches spend all their time with Matt on the recruiting front. Mike can wear himself out jumping out of his seat with his arms raised to the ceiling when ponds and crew hit their threes.

It takes top line players and excellent coaching to win at this level. Top talent can go to waste without excellent coaching. Coaching is much more of a factor than 5 or ten percent.

As others have expressed here, as a fan of the program, I the see improvement in the coaching this year with the exception of the del state no show - and they responded well to that lapse.

It's another year of growth for the team and a new staff.

John Calapari is not known as a great coach when comes to X's and O's. He wins because almost every Kid on his team is a top 20 Kid. He doesn't need to be a great tactician when he's bringing in that kind of talent year in and year out.

Considering the level of talent he has not won more than one championship. He's lost to less talented teams in the big games.

As I said, I get your point. I just take exception with minimizing the importance of coaching talent.
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:Smjmaherjr wrote:
Mean Gene wrote:
OLV72 wrote:
Mean Gene wrote:
In my opinion I don't think hiring another assistant coach is the issue here. Mullin and Richmond know basketball better than most. As Bill Parcells famously said, "It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's". It's about the players. We need to recruit better players and the players we do have who have the potential to be very good Big East players are very young and need experience. right now we have Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and Mussini who are Big East caliber players and we are bringing in three more next year. Yakwe, Freudenberg, Ellison, Owens and Williams can be good players but need to mature and most of all get more game experience. Mullin started from nothing, literally. we need to bring in more quality players who are Big East ready from the get go like Ponds , Ahmed and Lovett. It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's.

I see your point, but if it was strictly about the players we may as well put Mike Maher on the bench and let our HoF coaches spend all their time with Matt on the recruiting front. Mike can wear himself out jumping out of his seat with his arms raised to the ceiling when ponds and crew hit their threes.

It takes top line players and excellent coaching to win at this level. Top talent can go to waste without excellent coaching. Coaching is much more of a factor than 5 or ten percent.

As others have expressed here, as a fan of the program, I the see improvement in the coaching this year with the exception of the del state no show - and they responded well to that lapse.

It's another year of growth for the team and a new staff.

John Calapari is not known as a great coach when comes to X's and O's. He wins because almost every Kid on his team is a top 20 Kid. He doesn't need to be a great tactician when he's bringing in that kind of talent year in and year out.
that's kind of an extreme example.

Look what happened with Cuse last year without Boeheim and then with him

Thanks for reminding me to put a "mal'occhio" on Boeheim. We need Mike Hopkins to coach next week.

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Hire Mike Rice 8 months 4 days ago #234505

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Mean Gene wrote:
OLV72 wrote:
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In my opinion I don't think hiring another assistant coach is the issue here. Mullin and Richmond know basketball better than most. As Bill Parcells famously said, "It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's". It's about the players. We need to recruit better players and the players we do have who have the potential to be very good Big East players are very young and need experience. right now we have Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and Mussini who are Big East caliber players and we are bringing in three more next year. Yakwe, Freudenberg, Ellison, Owens and Williams can be good players but need to mature and most of all get more game experience. Mullin started from nothing, literally. we need to bring in more quality players who are Big East ready from the get go like Ponds , Ahmed and Lovett. It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's.

I see your point, but if it was strictly about the players we may as well put Mike Maher on the bench and let our HoF coaches spend all their time with Matt on the recruiting front. Mike can wear himself out jumping out of his seat with his arms raised to the ceiling when ponds and crew hit their threes.

It takes top line players and excellent coaching to win at this level. Top talent can go to waste without excellent coaching. Coaching is much more of a factor than 5 or ten percent.

As others have expressed here, as a fan of the program, I the see improvement in the coaching this year with the exception of the del state no show - and they responded well to that lapse.

It's another year of growth for the team and a new staff.

John Calapari is not known as a great coach when comes to X's and O's. He wins because almost every Kid on his team is a top 20 Kid. He doesn't need to be a great tactician when he's bringing in that kind of talent year in and year out.

You know what I would like to see? When Cal leaves Kentucky one step ahead of the NCAA posse(see that is how I grew up with that word, not sure at what point it became a racial slur???) I want him to go to like LIU or Wagner and see if he can still get some of the same guys. Would be interesting experiment. No?
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Hire Mike Rice 8 months 4 days ago #234506

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Class of 72 wrote:
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Mean Gene wrote:
OLV72 wrote:
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In my opinion I don't think hiring another assistant coach is the issue here. Mullin and Richmond know basketball better than most. As Bill Parcells famously said, "It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's". It's about the players. We need to recruit better players and the players we do have who have the potential to be very good Big East players are very young and need experience. right now we have Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and Mussini who are Big East caliber players and we are bringing in three more next year. Yakwe, Freudenberg, Ellison, Owens and Williams can be good players but need to mature and most of all get more game experience. Mullin started from nothing, literally. we need to bring in more quality players who are Big East ready from the get go like Ponds , Ahmed and Lovett. It's not about the X's and O's it's about the Jim's and the Joe's.

I see your point, but if it was strictly about the players we may as well put Mike Maher on the bench and let our HoF coaches spend all their time with Matt on the recruiting front. Mike can wear himself out jumping out of his seat with his arms raised to the ceiling when ponds and crew hit their threes.

It takes top line players and excellent coaching to win at this level. Top talent can go to waste without excellent coaching. Coaching is much more of a factor than 5 or ten percent.

As others have expressed here, as a fan of the program, I the see improvement in the coaching this year with the exception of the del state no show - and they responded well to that lapse.

It's another year of growth for the team and a new staff.

John Calapari is not known as a great coach when comes to X's and O's. He wins because almost every Kid on his team is a top 20 Kid. He doesn't need to be a great tactician when he's bringing in that kind of talent year in and year out.
that's kind of an extreme example.

Look what happened with Cuse last year without Boeheim and then with him

Thanks for reminding me to put a "mal'occhio" on Boeheim. We need Mike Hopkins to coach next week.

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Hire Mike Rice 8 months 4 days ago #234507

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PJ as special assistant. At this point he doesn't need the spotlight. Could be fine with running practice, game planning and taking a back seat on game day.


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JohnnyFan wrote:
PJ as special assistant. At this point he doesn't need the spotlight. Could be fine with running practice, game planning and taking a back seat on game day.


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I hear Jeff Van Gundy wants back on the sidelines but not in a high pressure head coaching position. More like an associate head coach. o teach hard-nosed defense. He loves the NY area. He is tight with Mark Jackson. Plus he has DEEP respect for Chris after all those Pacers series. I really think this could really happen, possibly before the end of the year.
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MainMan wrote:
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PJ as special assistant. At this point he doesn't need the spotlight. Could be fine with running practice, game planning and taking a back seat on game day.


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I hear Jeff Van Gundy wants back on the sidelines but not in a high pressure head coaching position. More like an associate head coach. o teach hard-nosed defense. He loves the NY area. He is tight with Mark Jackson. Plus he has DEEP respect for Chris after all those Pacers series. I really think this could really happen, possibly before the end of the year.

You're a riot, Alice.
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