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Matt A 3 hours 46 minutes ago #244644

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The fate of this team next year depends squarely on Ahmed, Owens and Yakwe improving. And that is not a recruiting issue, it is a coaching issue. All three of those guys have sufficient raw talent and will have enough experience by next year that with proper coaching they should be able to move us ahead.

Matt A's recruiting efforts are obviously crucial too, but we have enough talent right now to make considerable improvement next season and beyond IMO.

(Am assuming Ponds and Lovett both stay and continue their stellar progress.)

I think Simon coming in and playing even vaguley like the the #30 recruit in the class of 2015 would go further than whatever improvement I could imagine from Ahmed and Owens, Yakwe I agree with but then again if he loses minutes to Clark that point's moot too.

And to the main point being discussed here's Paultz's first post on the subject that got everyone's panties into a twist:

Just thinking out loud, Matt A is close with Will Wade and other coaches who could be up for high major jobs this coming spring. I assume Chris and SJU Administration will make sure to keep him here. He is the only AC with recruiting relationships and transfer prowess. Hopefully someone else on staff will be out there soon to give him a hand. One guy can't do it all IMO.

We would be in some serious trouble if he moved on, considering he has already recruited the entire team and has the short term future of the program directly tied to him. Maybe I worry too much. :)


Like he said it was just him thinking out loud. Matt's got a lead recruiter job at his alma mater and seems to be given free reign to jump on any plane he wants to see any player he wants to recommend while sitting on a bench with two HOFers. That seems like a pretty cushy position. Just make sure he's appropriately remunerated would be my only worry.

Clark is a 3-star forward who averaged less than 10 mins per game at MSU and has not played D1 b'ball in a year. Hope he'll be a contributor, but our frontcourt potential -and hence the fate of the team over the next couple of seasons--rest on the guys who are already here.

Owens was a 3-star center who averaged less than 10 minutes per game at Tennessee and hadn't played D1 ball in a year and look how much he's helping us. On top of that we might only have 2-3 guys currently eligible that would play for MSU at all.

I agree with you the development of guys currently eligible is key, but on paper Clark and Simon project to be two of our best players next year. Case could be made that, since we're not getting on court production from them this year, their addition could have a bigger proportional impact that the collective improvement of everyone on the current active roster.

Transfer game is all relative in my view. You can get a good player anywhere, but transfers from two of the Top 10 year in year out programs in the country don't come around all the time. The delta between "didn't completely work out at Arizona and MSU" and "can have a significant impact at SJU" is a very big one. With expectations still in check and accounting for a potential adjustment period over the first few months of the season, I think both of these players are closer to the level Arizona and MSU typically get (even if not at the higher end) which should be a very good thing for SJU.
Also have to take into consideration w year sitting out, players will be 1 year older, stronger and an extra year to work on things. I would welcome a transfer big in the mold of Simon and Clark.
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Matt A 3 hours 12 minutes ago #244646

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richard steinfeld wrote:
SJU1512 wrote:
P Simmons wrote:
austour wrote:
P Simmons wrote:
The fate of this team next year depends squarely on Ahmed, Owens and Yakwe improving. And that is not a recruiting issue, it is a coaching issue. All three of those guys have sufficient raw talent and will have enough experience by next year that with proper coaching they should be able to move us ahead.

Matt A's recruiting efforts are obviously crucial too, but we have enough talent right now to make considerable improvement next season and beyond IMO.

(Am assuming Ponds and Lovett both stay and continue their stellar progress.)

I think Simon coming in and playing even vaguley like the the #30 recruit in the class of 2015 would go further than whatever improvement I could imagine from Ahmed and Owens, Yakwe I agree with but then again if he loses minutes to Clark that point's moot too.

And to the main point being discussed here's Paultz's first post on the subject that got everyone's panties into a twist:

Just thinking out loud, Matt A is close with Will Wade and other coaches who could be up for high major jobs this coming spring. I assume Chris and SJU Administration will make sure to keep him here. He is the only AC with recruiting relationships and transfer prowess. Hopefully someone else on staff will be out there soon to give him a hand. One guy can't do it all IMO.

We would be in some serious trouble if he moved on, considering he has already recruited the entire team and has the short term future of the program directly tied to him. Maybe I worry too much. :)


Like he said it was just him thinking out loud. Matt's got a lead recruiter job at his alma mater and seems to be given free reign to jump on any plane he wants to see any player he wants to recommend while sitting on a bench with two HOFers. That seems like a pretty cushy position. Just make sure he's appropriately remunerated would be my only worry.

Clark is a 3-star forward who averaged less than 10 mins per game at MSU and has not played D1 b'ball in a year. Hope he'll be a contributor, but our frontcourt potential -and hence the fate of the team over the next couple of seasons--rest on the guys who are already here.

Owens was a 3-star center who averaged less than 10 minutes per game at Tennessee and hadn't played D1 ball in a year and look how much he's helping us. On top of that we might only have 2-3 guys currently eligible that would play for MSU at all.

I agree with you the development of guys currently eligible is key, but on paper Clark and Simon project to be two of our best players next year. Case could be made that, since we're not getting on court production from them this year, their addition could have a bigger proportional impact that the collective improvement of everyone on the current active roster.

Transfer game is all relative in my view. You can get a good player anywhere, but transfers from two of the Top 10 year in year out programs in the country don't come around all the time. The delta between "didn't completely work out at Arizona and MSU" and "can have a significant impact at SJU" is a very big one. With expectations still in check and accounting for a potential adjustment period over the first few months of the season, I think both of these players are closer to the level Arizona and MSU typically get (even if not at the higher end) which should be a very good thing for SJU.
Also have to take into consideration w year sitting out, players will be 1 year older, stronger and an extra year to work on things. I would welcome a transfer big in the mold of Simon and Clark.

I would think a grad transfer big is primary on staff's list & would not be surprised if one or two "sit out a year" transfer candidates visit in April/May. Obviously so much depends on roster movement.
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Matt A 1 hour 20 minutes ago #244657

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Paultzman wrote:
richard steinfeld wrote:
SJU1512 wrote:
P Simmons wrote:
austour wrote:
P Simmons wrote:
The fate of this team next year depends squarely on Ahmed, Owens and Yakwe improving. And that is not a recruiting issue, it is a coaching issue. All three of those guys have sufficient raw talent and will have enough experience by next year that with proper coaching they should be able to move us ahead.

Matt A's recruiting efforts are obviously crucial too, but we have enough talent right now to make considerable improvement next season and beyond IMO.

(Am assuming Ponds and Lovett both stay and continue their stellar progress.)

I think Simon coming in and playing even vaguley like the the #30 recruit in the class of 2015 would go further than whatever improvement I could imagine from Ahmed and Owens, Yakwe I agree with but then again if he loses minutes to Clark that point's moot too.

And to the main point being discussed here's Paultz's first post on the subject that got everyone's panties into a twist:

Just thinking out loud, Matt A is close with Will Wade and other coaches who could be up for high major jobs this coming spring. I assume Chris and SJU Administration will make sure to keep him here. He is the only AC with recruiting relationships and transfer prowess. Hopefully someone else on staff will be out there soon to give him a hand. One guy can't do it all IMO.

We would be in some serious trouble if he moved on, considering he has already recruited the entire team and has the short term future of the program directly tied to him. Maybe I worry too much. :)


Like he said it was just him thinking out loud. Matt's got a lead recruiter job at his alma mater and seems to be given free reign to jump on any plane he wants to see any player he wants to recommend while sitting on a bench with two HOFers. That seems like a pretty cushy position. Just make sure he's appropriately remunerated would be my only worry.

Clark is a 3-star forward who averaged less than 10 mins per game at MSU and has not played D1 b'ball in a year. Hope he'll be a contributor, but our frontcourt potential -and hence the fate of the team over the next couple of seasons--rest on the guys who are already here.

Owens was a 3-star center who averaged less than 10 minutes per game at Tennessee and hadn't played D1 ball in a year and look how much he's helping us. On top of that we might only have 2-3 guys currently eligible that would play for MSU at all.

I agree with you the development of guys currently eligible is key, but on paper Clark and Simon project to be two of our best players next year. Case could be made that, since we're not getting on court production from them this year, their addition could have a bigger proportional impact that the collective improvement of everyone on the current active roster.

Transfer game is all relative in my view. You can get a good player anywhere, but transfers from two of the Top 10 year in year out programs in the country don't come around all the time. The delta between "didn't completely work out at Arizona and MSU" and "can have a significant impact at SJU" is a very big one. With expectations still in check and accounting for a potential adjustment period over the first few months of the season, I think both of these players are closer to the level Arizona and MSU typically get (even if not at the higher end) which should be a very good thing for SJU.
Also have to take into consideration w year sitting out, players will be 1 year older, stronger and an extra year to work on things. I would welcome a transfer big in the mold of Simon and Clark.

I would think a grad transfer big is primary on staff's list & would not be surprised if one or two "sit out a year" transfer candidates visit in April/May. Obviously so much depends on roster movement.

Do transfers sitting out a year count as a roster spot?
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Matt A 1 hour 18 minutes ago #244658

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I think if the staff can continue to excel at pulling in transfers it will put this program at the level of the league.
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Matt A 1 hour 8 minutes ago #244661

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Knight wrote:
Do transfers sitting out a year count as a roster spot?

Yes
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Matt A 1 hour 7 minutes ago #244662

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Chris Mullin settles in & St. John's is 3-deep watching five-stars Moses Brown and Cole Anthony + top-40 Khalid Moore. #sjubb
Chris, Mitch & St. Jean

Lets hope that Coach Mullin instructs Messrs. Richmond & St.Jean to regularly attend scholastic games to take the load off workhorse Matt.

Don't know if any recruits' knees are going to go weak when they see St. Jean sitting in the stands.
They may for some as he is a fairly good looking guy. ;) :)
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Matt A 46 minutes ago #244664

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P Simmons wrote:
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The fate of this team next year depends squarely on Ahmed, Owens and Yakwe improving. And that is not a recruiting issue, it is a coaching issue. All three of those guys have sufficient raw talent and will have enough experience by next year that with proper coaching they should be able to move us ahead.

Matt A's recruiting efforts are obviously crucial too, but we have enough talent right now to make considerable improvement next season and beyond IMO.

(Am assuming Ponds and Lovett both stay and continue their stellar progress.)

I think Simon coming in and playing even vaguley like the the #30 recruit in the class of 2015 would go further than whatever improvement I could imagine from Ahmed and Owens, Yakwe I agree with but then again if he loses minutes to Clark that point's moot too.

And to the main point being discussed here's Paultz's first post on the subject that got everyone's panties into a twist:

Just thinking out loud, Matt A is close with Will Wade and other coaches who could be up for high major jobs this coming spring. I assume Chris and SJU Administration will make sure to keep him here. He is the only AC with recruiting relationships and transfer prowess. Hopefully someone else on staff will be out there soon to give him a hand. One guy can't do it all IMO.

We would be in some serious trouble if he moved on, considering he has already recruited the entire team and has the short term future of the program directly tied to him. Maybe I worry too much. :)


Like he said it was just him thinking out loud. Matt's got a lead recruiter job at his alma mater and seems to be given free reign to jump on any plane he wants to see any player he wants to recommend while sitting on a bench with two HOFers. That seems like a pretty cushy position. Just make sure he's appropriately remunerated would be my only worry.

Clark is a 3-star forward who averaged less than 10 mins per game at MSU and has not played D1 b'ball in a year. Hope he'll be a contributor, but our frontcourt potential -and hence the fate of the team over the next couple of seasons--rest on the guys who are already here.

Agreed to an extent but I don't see a lot of major improvement possible for Ahmed and Owens, just polishing. Yakwe can grow by leaps and bounds if his game ever catches up with his body of course.

So I'm just looking for another body, and let's be fair Clark played less than 10 mins/game on two 27+ win teams, one of which went to the final four, and behind two guys who were second round draft picks and play(ed) in the NBA (Dawson and Davis - I'm not even counting Valentine who MSU listed as a SG), not quite what he'll be competing against in Jamaica. FWIW Tariq played less than 8 minutes a game at TN as a frosh.
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Matt A 43 minutes ago #244665

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bamafan wrote:
redken wrote:
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Paultzman wrote:
Marley Paul‏ @MarleyPaul22

Chris Mullin settles in & St. John's is 3-deep watching five-stars Moses Brown and Cole Anthony + top-40 Khalid Moore. #sjubb
Chris, Mitch & St. Jean

Lets hope that Coach Mullin instructs Messrs. Richmond & St.Jean to regularly attend scholastic games to take the load off workhorse Matt.

Don't know if any recruits' knees are going to go weak when they see St. Jean sitting in the stands.
They may for some as he is a fairly good looking guy. ;) :)

Maybe Tarmatella or whatever the Women's team coaches name is should bring him out with him.

And sorry for the previous post. Didn't realize everyone else had already made the points I was trying to make.
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