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Free Throws Free Throws Free Throws!!!!! 1 year 3 weeks ago #212660

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I know that shooting free throws is just one part of the game but as a fan it has been maddening to watch our ineptitude from the line this season. Watching Depaul finish off the game tonight by making 12 straight from the charity stripe and watching us miss on 11 of 30 free throws got me to thinking about just how terrible we are from the line this year and how bad we are in comparison to the rest of the country at this part of the game. I also think it is worth noting that Coach Mullin was one of the best Free Throw shooters ever. I would think this has to frustrate him to watch how bad we are at a phase of the game that he mastered so well.

Going into tonight's contest we sat 339th of 351 schools in division 1 in free throw percentage. Looking at this I thought this just must be an aberrational year for St. John's to be this terrible. For sure I thought we must have had some years where we were at least decent from the line. Surprisingly (although this is the worst year statistically from the line that I was able to find) the results going back aren't that much better for us.

I was able to go back and look at where we ranked nationally for the last fifteen years in regular season free throw percentage and we generally were ranked low. For comparison I looked up where Villanova was ranked for the same period of time. (see below) The comparison is not pretty here.

I offer no specific explanation or theory about why this happens year after year but I do pose these question for people out there. Why has this negative trend existed for so long and what do you believe is the reason for it? It has gone back over several regimes of coaches so for me it is hard to look at it as just a coaching thing. Is it recruiting philosophy? Is it bad luck? Lighting in out arena? A free throw curse or is it something else? Let me know your theories.

Most importantly can the current coaching staff reverse this trend and turn this consistent negative element of our game into a positive element?

If they can't figure it out maybe someone can look at what Jay Wright is doing at Villanova because they seem to be making the Free Throw thing work for them really well.


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2015/16 SJU NR 339 / Vill NR 1
2014/15 SJU NR 173 / Vill NR 49
2013/14 SJU NR 180 / Vill NR 123
2012/13 SJU NR 316 / Vill NR 85
2011/12 SJU NR 225 / Vill NR 20
2010/11 SJU NR 110 / Vill NR 17
2009/10 SJU NR 291 / Vill NR 13
2008/09 SJU NR 289 / Vill NR 28
2007/08 SJU NR 266 / Vill NR 71
2006/07 SJU NR 073 / Vill NR 1
2005/06 SJU NR 272 / Vill NR 17
2004/05 SJU NR 218 / Vill NR 24
2003/04 SJU NR 292 / Vill NR 31
2002/03 SJU NR 260 / Vill NR 93
2001/02 SJU NR 243 / Vill NR 27
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Free Throws Free Throws Free Throws!!!!! 1 year 3 weeks ago #212663

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When Yakwe becomes the guy you have more confidence in at the line is scary ..

Maybe the low historical FT'S is tied to having more not so good players rathrr than good/great players and when your losing there is more stress to hit the FT...as well if it's not stressed in practice, that skill can go downhill.... like bowling or shooting darts...repetition for mastery of technique.
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Free Throws Free Throws Free Throws!!!!! 1 year 3 weeks ago #212664

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turnovers,stupid tunovers, turnovers
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Free Throws Free Throws Free Throws!!!!! 1 year 3 weeks ago #212667

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frank wrote:
turnovers,stupid tunovers, turnovers

With Marcus Lovett and Shamorie Ponds running the point there will huge improvement in the turnover department.
They can't however take free throws for their teammates.
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Free Throws Free Throws Free Throws!!!!! 1 year 3 weeks ago #212671

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We have all been over this before. SJU's basketball program has a weak pedigree when it comes to guys that can shoot the basketball. When you can go back 40 or more years and find only 5 or 6 high quality shooters, you have to expect that free throws will not be your strength. While some long range guys, for whatever reason, aren't good from the charity stripe, that is more of an anomaly. Having a very young team is another factor, as is dealing with fatigue.
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Free Throws Free Throws Free Throws!!!!! 1 year 3 weeks ago #212705

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When Max Hooper is one of the few, if any players to have the eligible number of shots and shoot 3 pointers over 40% you have a shooting problem in general.
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Free Throws Free Throws Free Throws!!!!! 1 year 3 weeks ago #212714

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90% of shooting free throws is about form and repetition.

The other half is mental..
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Free Throws Free Throws Free Throws!!!!! 1 year 3 weeks ago #212720

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Ray Morgan wrote:
We have all been over this before. SJU's basketball program has a weak pedigree when it comes to guys that can shoot the basketball. When you can go back 40 or more years and find only 5 or 6 high quality shooters, you have to expect that free throws will not be your strength. While some long range guys, for whatever reason, aren't good from the charity stripe, that is more of an anomaly. Having a very young team is another factor, as is dealing with fatigue.

This is exactly what I was thinking Ray.
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Free Throws Free Throws Free Throws!!!!! 1 year 3 weeks ago #212782

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Next year team should be made to understand that if you can't shoot 65% or better, your minutes will be limited...do the work or sit
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