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Guys on Matt’s Radar 3 weeks 3 days ago #279076

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JohnnyFan wrote:

fordham96 wrote: Best scenario this spring:

1) add 1 quality grad transfer preferably a big (Trey Porter/Olujobi)

2) add 1 quality sit transfer.(McGusty/Yurtseven)

3) add 1 new incoming quality freshman (maybe one of the UCONN kids Emmitt Matthews/Kisunas)

Insert your own name.if you prefer.

Add them to the current roster and incoming players (assume Ponds returns) and they are ready to roll next year and set up for good 2019 class as well.


Not "preferably a big".

Here's the deal......either we get at least one immediately eligible big or next season is over before it starts.


I think we need two bigs for next season, a grad transfer and a freshman who decommitted from somewhere or two grad transfers, and then bringing a guy like McGusty would be ideal.
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Guys on Matt’s Radar 3 weeks 3 days ago #279077

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Femi Olujobi looks like a guy who could be a low double digit scorer in the Big East. Would be a definite upgrade from Tariq.
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Guys on Matt’s Radar 3 weeks 3 days ago #279079

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redmannorth wrote:

Tom in Salem wrote: I year ago we were raving about the likes of

Nassir Little, SF,
Moses Brown
RJ Barrett
Bol Bol, F
Jahvon Quinnerly, PG
Alan Griffin,
J'Raan Brooks, PF,
Jordan Brown, PF, .
Luther Muhammad
Naz Reid, C,
Luguentz Dort,

And now we're getting pumped up about these guys on matt's radar?
Has the program fallen this far?


Tom almost every kid you list is a top 25 kid. I applaud the staff for trying to get top level talent but reality is we have gotten 1 top 25 high school kid in 14 years , being Rysheed Jordan. And he was available because almost no top program went after him.
Yes staff struck out with all top 25 talent , as is the norm, but still secured commitments from Roberts, Williams and DE. Maybe that is the best we can do at this stage and yes that is how far this program has fallen.


It still baffles me that fans expect us to be landing highly rated recruits of this caliber. We have had 3 straight losing seasons, we haven't won a NCAA tournament game in 2 decades, and have a very unestablished staff. Remind me how we should be winning recruiting battles for top kids?
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Guys on Matt’s Radar 3 weeks 3 days ago #279080

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redmannorth wrote:

Tom in Salem wrote: I year ago we were raving about the likes of

Nassir Little, SF,
Moses Brown
RJ Barrett
Bol Bol, F
Jahvon Quinnerly, PG
Alan Griffin,
J'Raan Brooks, PF,
Jordan Brown, PF, .
Luther Muhammad
Naz Reid, C,
Luguentz Dort,

And now we're getting pumped up about these guys on matt's radar?
Has the program fallen this far?


Tom almost every kid you list is a top 25 kid. I applaud the staff for trying to get top level talent but reality is we have gotten 1 top 25 high school kid in 14 years , being Rysheed Jordan. And he was available because almost no top program went after him.
Yes staff struck out with all top 25 talent , as is the norm, but still secured commitments from Roberts, Williams and DE. Maybe that is the best we can do at this stage and yes that is how far this program has fallen.

Maybe that’s our problem. Instead of going after top 25 talent , we should go after players rated between 50 and 100. Much better percentage of landing, but still good players. After we put together some winning seasons go after the highest talent.. Striking out on studs isn’t going to do us any good, except occupy the time of our one recruiter.
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Guys on Matt’s Radar 3 weeks 3 days ago #279082

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Sit out guard to pursue perhaps

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Guys on Matt’s Radar 3 weeks 3 days ago #279083

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Paultzman wrote: Sit out guard to pursue perhaps


Paultz, you are truly channeling your inner Yoda! :)

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Guys on Matt’s Radar 3 weeks 3 days ago #279086

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a year ago, of that list of top 25 guys I think the staff was only seriously pursuing 2 or 3 (Muhamad, J.brown, N.Little). The writing was already on the wall for Brown and Reid. Muhammad was the most serious and I'm not sure he was a top 25 anyway. I think he was top 50 or maybe 75 depending upon the list. That is the guy they spent the most time on and thought were in the driver's seat with. From what I was told and seems more obvious now, Quinerly was NEVER an option. Brooks was not discussed. We swooped in on an opportunity. Little they were serious about but once he BLEW UP, it was a dog fight with blue bloods and depending upon who you believe, he was always going to an Addidas school anyway and some people were playing out staff the whole time. From my amateur perspective, he's the #1 guy in his class by a good margin.

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Guys on Matt’s Radar 3 weeks 3 days ago #279087

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Room112 wrote:

Tom in Salem wrote: I year ago we were raving about the likes of

Nassir Little, SF,
Moses Brown
RJ Barrett
Bol Bol, F
Jahvon Quinnerly, PG
Alan Griffin,
J'Raan Brooks, PF,
Jordan Brown, PF, .
Luther Muhammad
Naz Reid, C,
Luguentz Dort,

And now we're getting pumped up about these guys on matt's radar?
Has the program fallen this far?


Have you checked the 2019 recruiting section? We're certainly still in the mix on plenty of legit names. This post is just about a snapshot of what Matt is currently going after in the transfer route, since we all know that's a huge need right now. Clam down people!!


I'm sorry it is a fair complaint. A big part of the reason Lavin was fired was because of his recruiting or lack thereof you cannot simply excuse the current staff's lack of success as that is just the way it is at SJU.

Also the failure to target and follow thru on key recruits and continued focus on transfers is partly due at least to the laziness and staff screwup (see Slice) of the current regime.

You cannot simply dismiss that as "Oh we never get top 25 recruits anyway." That is a copout.
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Guys on Matt’s Radar 3 weeks 3 days ago #279088

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Room112 wrote:

redmannorth wrote:

Tom in Salem wrote: I year ago we were raving about the likes of

Nassir Little, SF,
Moses Brown
RJ Barrett
Bol Bol, F
Jahvon Quinnerly, PG
Alan Griffin,
J'Raan Brooks, PF,
Jordan Brown, PF, .
Luther Muhammad
Naz Reid, C,
Luguentz Dort,

And now we're getting pumped up about these guys on matt's radar?
Has the program fallen this far?


Tom almost every kid you list is a top 25 kid. I applaud the staff for trying to get top level talent but reality is we have gotten 1 top 25 high school kid in 14 years , being Rysheed Jordan. And he was available because almost no top program went after him.
Yes staff struck out with all top 25 talent , as is the norm, but still secured commitments from Roberts, Williams and DE. Maybe that is the best we can do at this stage and yes that is how far this program has fallen.


It still baffles me that fans expect us to be landing highly rated recruits of this caliber. We have had 3 straight losing seasons, we haven't won a NCAA tournament game in 2 decades, and have a very unestablished staff. Remind me how we should be winning recruiting battles for top kids?


"Remind me how we should be winning recruiting battles for top kids?"

Well it is certainly not with guys that never recruited (or coached) a day in their basketball lives!
I was very encouraged by Mullin hiring Slice and Matt to offset his zero experience in recruiting. In the first year, yes, we were associated with a lot of elite names. If we got one Shamorie Ponds every year this program would be very competitive. Once the schism with Mullin, Slice and Matt developed we became transfer dependent which is what Matt does well. The slack was never picked up by Mitch Richmond or Greg St Jean so in that regard TIS is 100% correct. We just don't have a team approach to recruiting with the head coach front and center of the pursuit. Hopefully that changes with the 2019 class. Especially if Mitch Richmond follows his heart, and family, back to California.

At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
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At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Guys on Matt’s Radar 3 weeks 3 days ago #279089

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If you think I am waybiff base ask yourself an honest question. Who from this class do you think Norm Roberts or Steve Lavin would have been incapable of Recruiting?

Seriously?
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