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Villanova a Blue Blood 4 weeks 1 day ago #278506

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John Rothsrein and Greenberg are now referring to Wildcats as being a blue blood program based upon their recent success under Jay Wright and their representing the Big East as top program
Hard to believe but at one time St John’s was consider the better program
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Villanova a Blue Blood 4 weeks 1 day ago #278511

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salty dog wrote: John Rothsrein and Greenberg are now referring to Wildcats as being a blue blood program based upon their recent success under Jay Wright and their representing the Big East as top program
Hard to believe but at one time St John’s was consider the better program


Difficult to argue. Nova has been certainly a top Big East program for much of the past decade, led by Jay Wright: 13 NCAA appearances since ‘05, 4 Elite Eights since ‘06, 3 Final Fours since ‘09 and NCAA Champions in 2016.
That’s very heady.
And so far, a program that has achieved notable success with class.
Meanwhile, we’ve done a ‘180’.
It’s way past time to reverse that.

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Villanova a Blue Blood 4 weeks 23 hours ago #278516

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Villanova has benefitted from talented institutional leadership which has set goals and worked towards those goals which has lifted the academic footprint of the one time regional college to national rains.

St.Johns, on the other hand has endured protracted leadership from its former long time President “Suits” Harrington who seemingly set the most modest of goals but rarely achieved them.

We can differ on whether Villanova’s undergrad Business school is the #1 in the country but the fact is Businrss Week has named Villanova #1 for the past several years. www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-best-und...ad-business-schools/ . A friend’s son turned down attending Georgetown and Boston College to attend the Villanova Business School. Admission to Villanova has become competitive as it has broadened its applicant pool throughout the country. Median SAT is now 1370. Villanova has begun to expand its campus completing soon to open dorms), parking garage, and theatre across the stree in the former parking area.

The Villanova Administration understands that a winning basketball program creates a winning perception of the school and attracts applicants. During the 2000- 2001 season, when former basketball coach Steve Lappas was in his 9th season as Villanova men’s basketball coach the Villanova Administration recognized that notwithstanding Lappas’ solid record of 174 wins and 110 losses with 7 post season appearances that “pretty good” was not enough so it fired Lappas and hired Jay Wright ..... the rest is history.

A further interesting comparison between St.Johns and Villanova is financial aid. As a Vincentian school StJohn’s gives more aid per student... right? Wrong, according The The College Board StJohn’s awards an average 1st year financial aid package of $28,216 while Villanova awards an average of $38,853.
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otis wrote: Villanova has benefitted from talented institutional leadership which has set goals and worked towards those goals which has lifted the academic footprint of the one time regional college to national rains.

St.Johns, on the other hand has endured protracted leadership from its former long time President “Suits” Harrington who seemingly set the most modest of goals but rarely achieved them.

We can differ on whether Villanova’s undergrad Business school is the #1 in the country but the fact is Businrss Week has named Villanova #1 for the past several years. www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-best-und...ad-business-schools/ . A friend’s son turned down attending Georgetown and Boston College to attend the Villanova Business School. Admission to Villanova has become competitive as it has broadened its applicant pool throughout the country. Median SAT is now 1370. Villanova has begun to expand its campus completing soon to open dorms), parking garage, and theatre across the stree in the former parking area.

The Villanova Administration understands that a winning basketball program creates a winning perception of the school and attracts applicants. During the 2000- 2001 season, when former basketball coach Steve Lappas was in his 9th season as Villanova men’s basketball coach the Villanova Administration recognized that notwithstanding Lappas’ solid record of 174 wins and 110 losses with 7 post season appearances that “pretty good” was not enough so it fired Lappas and hired Jay Wright ..... the rest is history.

A further interesting comparison between St.Johns and Villanova is financial aid. As a Vincentian school StJohn’s gives more aid per student... right? Wrong, according The The College Board StJohn’s awards an average 1st year financial aid package of $28,216 while Villanova awards an average of $38,853.


You could’ve just said the Flutie effect has kicked in overtime for Nova.

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Villanova a Blue Blood 4 weeks 22 hours ago #278539

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otis wrote: Villanova has benefitted from talented institutional leadership which has set goals and worked towards those goals which has lifted the academic footprint of the one time regional college to national rains.

St.Johns, on the other hand has endured protracted leadership from its former long time President “Suits” Harrington who seemingly set the most modest of goals but rarely achieved them.

We can differ on whether Villanova’s undergrad Business school is the #1 in the country but the fact is Businrss Week has named Villanova #1 for the past several years. www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-best-und...ad-business-schools/ . A friend’s son turned down attending Georgetown and Boston College to attend the Villanova Business School. Admission to Villanova has become competitive as it has broadened its applicant pool throughout the country. Median SAT is now 1370. Villanova has begun to expand its campus completing soon to open dorms), parking garage, and theatre across the stree in the former parking area.

The Villanova Administration understands that a winning basketball program creates a winning perception of the school and attracts applicants. During the 2000- 2001 season, when former basketball coach Steve Lappas was in his 9th season as Villanova men’s basketball coach the Villanova Administration recognized that notwithstanding Lappas’ solid record of 174 wins and 110 losses with 7 post season appearances that “pretty good” was not enough so it fired Lappas and hired Jay Wright ..... the rest is history.

A further interesting comparison between St.Johns and Villanova is financial aid. As a Vincentian school StJohn’s gives more aid per student... right? Wrong, according The The College Board StJohn’s awards an average 1st year financial aid package of $28,216 while Villanova awards an average of $38,853.


What's the comparison of tuition costs?
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Villanova a Blue Blood 4 weeks 21 hours ago #278541

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Of these 2 colleges: St John's-NY is a Significantly Larger School: (20,877 vs. 10,711 Total Students) Villanova University is Much More Difficult to Get In: (47.9% vs. 64.9% Acceptance Rate) St John's-NY Offers Considerably Cheaper Tuition: ($38,680 USD vs. $47,616 USD Tuition)
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Sju grad 13 wrote:

otis wrote: Villanova has benefitted from talented institutional leadership which has set goals and worked towards those goals which has lifted the academic footprint of the one time regional college to national rains.

St.Johns, on the other hand has endured protracted leadership from its former long time President “Suits” Harrington who seemingly set the most modest of goals but rarely achieved them.

We can differ on whether Villanova’s undergrad Business school is the #1 in the country but the fact is Businrss Week has named Villanova #1 for the past several years. www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-best-und...ad-business-schools/ . A friend’s son turned down attending Georgetown and Boston College to attend the Villanova Business School. Admission to Villanova has become competitive as it has broadened its applicant pool throughout the country. Median SAT is now 1370. Villanova has begun to expand its campus completing soon to open dorms), parking garage, and theatre across the stree in the former parking area.

The Villanova Administration understands that a winning basketball program creates a winning perception of the school and attracts applicants. During the 2000- 2001 season, when former basketball coach Steve Lappas was in his 9th season as Villanova men’s basketball coach the Villanova Administration recognized that notwithstanding Lappas’ solid record of 174 wins and 110 losses with 7 post season appearances that “pretty good” was not enough so it fired Lappas and hired Jay Wright ..... the rest is history.

A further interesting comparison between St.Johns and Villanova is financial aid. As a Vincentian school StJohn’s gives more aid per student... right? Wrong, according The The College Board StJohn’s awards an average 1st year financial aid package of $28,216 while Villanova awards an average of $38,853.


You could’ve just said the Flutie effect has kicked in overtime for Nova.


You are correct about Bloomberg.

That said (and as you are probably aware), due to a controversy in the way the results were calculated Bloomberg no longer ranks biz schools.

Arguably Notre Dame's Mendoza School of Business is the best undergrad business school among Catholic schools and is among the top 3, at worst, among all undergrad biz schools (public or private)

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bigfuture.collegeboard.org/college-unive...villanova-university

This has Nova's tuition and Fees at a little over $51K

bigfuture.collegeboard.org/college-unive...ns-university-queens

This has SJU tuition and Fees at a little over $40K


Also need to take into consideration room and board and that the overwhelming majority of Nova students are residents (either on or off campus), while the majority of St. John's students live at home.

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My Granddaugjter received her acceptance letter from Villanova last Thursday . According to US News and World Report Rankings of Colleges Villanova is Number 46 . Notre Dame 16 and Ga Tech 34. St John’s is 165. It’s embarrassing . Not only do we need the B.B. program to regain respect but, the School as a whole needs a lot of Work to improve Academics . Nova started on their way to create a identity and Brand after they won the NCAA in 85 and have just ridden that to excellence as a School and the BE premier program . They worked hard . Us ? Not enough .

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SLYFOXX1968 wrote: My Granddaugjter received her acceptance letter from Villanova last Thursday . According to US News and World Report Rankings of Colleges Villanova is Number 46 . Notre Dame 16 and Ga Tech 34. St John’s is 165. It’s embarrassing . Not only do we need the B.B. program to regain respect but, the School as a whole needs a lot of Work to improve Academics . Nova started on their way to create a identity and Brand after they won the NCAA in 85 and have just ridden that to excellence as a School and the BE premier program . They worked hard . Us ? Not enough .


I don't think 165 is embarrassing at all. Wasn't the school bragging about being top 400 a few years ago?

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