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Shamorie 4 weeks 16 hours ago #278617

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Knight wrote: I don't know, now it's looked down on you if you spend 4 years in college playing ball.


99% have no choice! They will never play pro ball. Every player develops a a different rate with bigs developing the slowest. The Greek Freak would have never been a 1 n done and never went to college but now, at 23, is on the road to being a great NBA player. Many of the European players drafted by NBA teams are over 21 years old and didn't have to go to Kentucky to get drafted. If you are a player scouts will find you, no matter where you play. That's why St. John's can turn it around quickly if they just get those 2 or 3 players.

At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
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At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Shamorie 4 weeks 2 hours ago #278655

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Knight wrote: I don't know, now it's looked down on you if you spend 4 years in college playing ball.


Who looks down on it? What's wrong with getting a degree and play ball at the next level after that? Many leave early, but not many of them are around after 3 years. Now no NBA and no degree,

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Shamorie 4 weeks 2 hours ago #278656

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frank61 wrote:

Knight wrote: I don't know, now it's looked down on you if you spend 4 years in college playing ball.


Who looks down on it? What's wrong with getting a degree and play ball at the next level after that? Many leave early, but not many of them are around after 3 years. Now no NBA and no degree,


The consensus with GM’s is that a 19-20 year old has more room to grow, while a 22 year old growth opportunities maybe more limited. Sidenote: This is why Jimmy Butler out of Marquette fell low in the draft.

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Shamorie 4 weeks 45 minutes ago #278676

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I know i am bias but i just feel like if Ponds left it'd be major mistake. If he gets drafted, it would be mid second round at best.

If he comes back, he's one of the biggest players in the NCAA. He almost single handedly dropped #4 Duke, played great against Nova. Made a ton of headlines, led the big east in scoring. He'd be Pre-season Big East player of the year, and probably the best player in the entire conference with Blueitt, Bridges, Brunson, Foster, Delgado, Thomas, Kelan Martin, Macura, Cartwright all gone.

I just feel like if he does what I think he can do next season, he will be a first rounder.
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Shamorie 4 weeks 17 minutes ago #278684

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Jack Williams wrote: I know i am bias but i just feel like if Ponds left it'd be major mistake. If he gets drafted, it would be mid second round at best.

If he comes back, he's one of the biggest players in the NCAA. He almost single handedly dropped #4 Duke, played great against Nova. Made a ton of headlines, led the big east in scoring. He'd be Pre-season Big East player of the year, and probably the best player in the entire conference with Blueitt, Bridges, Brunson, Foster, Delgado, Thomas, Kelan Martin, Macura, Cartwright all gone.

I just feel like if he does what I think he can do next season, he will be a first rounder.

Recent article in NY Post had article about Ponds and draft.Ponds father said he would not leave SJU to be a 2nd rounder. At least one of our players has a father w a brain:)
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Shamorie 3 weeks 6 days ago #278710

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Sju grad 13 wrote:

frank61 wrote:

Knight wrote: I don't know, now it's looked down on you if you spend 4 years in college playing ball.


Who looks down on it? What's wrong with getting a degree and play ball at the next level after that? Many leave early, but not many of them are around after 3 years. Now no NBA and no degree,


The consensus with GM’s is that a 19-20 year old has more room to grow, while a 22 year old growth opportunities maybe more limited. Sidenote: This is why Jimmy Butler out of Marquette fell low in the draft.


Show us who took that survey??:whistle:

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Shamorie 3 weeks 6 days ago #278797

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Jack Williams wrote: I know i am bias but i just feel like if Ponds left it'd be major mistake. If he gets drafted, it would be mid second round at best.

If he comes back, he's one of the biggest players in the NCAA. He almost single handedly dropped #4 Duke, played great against Nova. Made a ton of headlines, led the big east in scoring. He'd be Pre-season Big East player of the year, and probably the best player in the entire conference with Blueitt, Bridges, Brunson, Foster, Delgado, Thomas, Kelan Martin, Macura, Cartwright all gone.

I just feel like if he does what I think he can do next season, he will be a first rounder.


Good post, Jack. I tend to agree. As you can see watching the tournament, there are a lot of very good guards, and there always are. Ponds has to consistently tear up the competition, and forgetting about game stats, it was clear that he only consistently did it for maybe a 5 or 6 game stretch. This is especially true in crunch time when games are won or lost.

Mullin and staff have definitely recognized this, and even when Ponds was putting up big numbers during the losing streak, thought he could play at a much higher level. I think you are correct, and if he can sustain a higher level of play for an entire season, could be a late first round pick next year.

I think he will listen intently during this period and make a decision based on the likelihood of him going in the 1st round this year. Second round picks mostly do not stick, and there are always a bunch of free agent and D league type guards who improve and ready to claim a spot on an NBA roster.
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Shamorie 2 weeks 2 hours ago #280431

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Shamorie 1 week 6 days ago #280595

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Latest Mock Draft (With NBA "staffs" input) from Sport's Illustrated doesn't have any mention of Shamori in their TOP 60 prospects. Numerous European players not on the every day reader's radar are in there. Shamori was wise NOT to sign with an agent.
Have to figure he'll be dribbling down Utopia Parkway come July & not in some NBA Summer League. Before his return I hope he asks some NBA folks, "what do I need to add to my skills in order to improve my prospects to be drafted high in the 2019 NBA Draft ?" Then, it's all up to him to maximize his efforts to reach his goal. I'm betting that he makes all the right moves & reaches his goal come June 2019.
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Shamorie 1 week 5 days ago #280754

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New highlight mix via the Big East Conference.

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