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Around the Big East '17-18 1 week 22 hours ago #281324

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Paultzman wrote: Evan Daniels
NC State transfer Omer Yurtseven signed scholarship papers with Georgetown, a source tells @247Sports 247sports.com/college/basketball/recruit...Georgetown-117383508


I would be surprised to actually see him suit up and play for Georgetown


No doubt, one of the best transfers on the market. His dad resides in the DMV area, hence his signing with Georgetown. The Hoyas are hoping the NCAA gives the nod to the GPA eligibility rule, and Yurtseven is immediately eligible to play during the 2018-2019 season.

If not, I think he bails on 'em midseason or after next season to pursue professional ball.


If that rule happens Caraher plays immediately at SJU. Not going to happen this year.

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Around the Big East '17-18 1 week 19 hours ago #281336

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Paultzman wrote: Per Casual Hoya
Patrick Ewing's 1st recruiting class (so far):
4-star PG James Akinjo (CA)
4-star F Josh LeBlanc (LA)
4-star F Grayson Carter (TX)
3-star G Mac McClung (VA)


Rivals out with update 2018, 19 and 20 rankings.

Akinjo went up 45 spots to no. 68. Greg Williams still listed as 4 star but no longer top 150.

n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2018

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Around the Big East '17-18 1 week 19 hours ago #281337

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fordham96 wrote:

Paultzman wrote: Per Casual Hoya
Patrick Ewing's 1st recruiting class (so far):
4-star PG James Akinjo (CA)
4-star F Josh LeBlanc (LA)
4-star F Grayson Carter (TX)
3-star G Mac McClung (VA)


Rivals out with update 2018, 19 and 20 rankings.

Akinjo went up 45 spots to no. 68. Greg Williams still listed as 4 star but no longer top 150.

n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2018


I just took a peek at the new rankings, and noticed Akinjo's ascension and Williams was no longer in Rivals' top 150. Williams was once among Rivals' top 80 recruits a year ago. These kids pay attention to this stuff, so I'm hoping he comes in with a chip on his shoulder.

I believe Rivals' rankings for the 2019 and 2020 classes will respectively be updated in a couple days.

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Around the Big East '17-18 1 week 19 hours ago #281342

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This is probably a very dumb question, but i noticed that the last 15 players in Rivals' updated rankings are 3*-rated. (Alan Griffin 3* ranked 149.)
Is Greg Williams a 4* by Rivals? If so, how is it that 3*-rated kids are ranked higher than a 4* player?
And given the vibes we've been getting about GW's character and intensity--yes, i bet he comes in very hungry.

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Chicago Days wrote: This is probably a very dumb question, but i noticed that the last 15 players in Rivals' updated rankings are 3*-rated. (Alan Griffin 3* ranked 149.)
Is Greg Williams a 4* by Rivals? If so, how is it that 3*-rated kids are ranked higher than a 4* player?
And given the vibes we've been getting about GW's character and intensity--yes, i bet he comes in very hungry.

Williams plays at small school & does not get attention from some evaluators. In some other ratings, he’s viewed higher. Even if he is a 3 or 3+ kid he looks like he has a nice upside.
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Around the Big East '17-18 1 week 15 hours ago #281361

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Ewing doing some good things down in DC. I think he will be successful, I was impressed by his coaching in his first year. Looks like it will be a heated rivalry from here on out which is good for the big east. Hopefully we keep the momentum going because their rebuild is moving fast.

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Dan V wrote: Ewing doing some good things down in DC. I think he will be successful, I was impressed by his coaching in his first year. Looks like it will be a heated rivalry from here on out which is good for the big east. Hopefully we keep the momentum going because their rebuild is moving fast.


As long as he doesn't steal Kofi from under Mullin’s nose I wish him the best.

At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

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At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

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Dan V wrote: Ewing doing some good things down in DC. I think he will be successful, I was impressed by his coaching in his first year. Looks like it will be a heated rivalry from here on out which is good for the big east. Hopefully we keep the momentum going because their rebuild is moving fast.


I can't say their "rebuild is moving fast" until I see the product pay off on the court. Remember, they won 15 games overall after having won 10 games before conference play even started. Mainly, those 10 wins was due to one of the softest schedules in the last 15 years in college basketball.

Do I think they looked better than initially advertised? Yes, I would say so. But that had to do with the expectations being so low. In reality, their frontcourt talent wasn't bad to begin with in Govan and Derrickson (although, I thought they both showed improvement). It was their backcourt which actualy did 'em in.

Their backcourt with more experience and talent coming in should be better, but their frontcourt could take a significant hit if Derrickson decides to go through signing with an agent and Govan, 'though he didn't sign with an agent, doesn't return after also tossing his name into the draft.

In order to keep the momentum going, you had to already have it on your side, right? LOL
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Around the Big East '17-18 1 week 14 hours ago #281368

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MJDinkins wrote:

Dan V wrote: Ewing doing some good things down in DC. I think he will be successful, I was impressed by his coaching in his first year. Looks like it will be a heated rivalry from here on out which is good for the big east. Hopefully we keep the momentum going because their rebuild is moving fast.


I can't say their "rebuild is moving fast" until I see the product pay off on the court. Remember, they won 15 games overall after having won 10 games before conference play even started. Mainly, those 10 wins was due to one of the softest schedules in the last 15 years in college basketball.

Do I think they looked better than initially advertised? Yes, I would say so. But that had to do with the expectations being so low. In reality, their frontcourt talent wasn't bad to begin with in Govan and Derrickson (although, I thought they both showed improvement). It was their backcourt which actualy did 'em in.

Their backcourt with more experience and talent coming in should be better, but their frontcourt could take a significant hit if Derrickson decides to go through signing with an agent and Govan, 'though he didn't sign with an agent, doesn't return after also tossing his name into the draft.

In order to keep the momentum going, you had to already have it on your side, right? LOL

I just meant they are landing players which is the first step in any rebuild. If Govan leaves that would set them back some but they seem to be headed in the right direction. By momentum i was referring to the Caraher signing, hopefully we sign a few more and get that big man we've all been waiting for.

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Dan V wrote:

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Dan V wrote: Ewing doing some good things down in DC. I think he will be successful, I was impressed by his coaching in his first year. Looks like it will be a heated rivalry from here on out which is good for the big east. Hopefully we keep the momentum going because their rebuild is moving fast.


I can't say their "rebuild is moving fast" until I see the product pay off on the court. Remember, they won 15 games overall after having won 10 games before conference play even started. Mainly, those 10 wins was due to one of the softest schedules in the last 15 years in college basketball.

Do I think they looked better than initially advertised? Yes, I would say so. But that had to do with the expectations being so low. In reality, their frontcourt talent wasn't bad to begin with in Govan and Derrickson (although, I thought they both showed improvement). It was their backcourt which actualy did 'em in.

Their backcourt with more experience and talent coming in should be better, but their frontcourt could take a significant hit if Derrickson decides to go through signing with an agent and Govan, 'though he didn't sign with an agent, doesn't return after also tossing his name into the draft.

In order to keep the momentum going, you had to already have it on your side, right? LOL

I just meant they are landing players which is the first step in any rebuild. If Govan leaves that would set them back some but they seem to be headed in the right direction. By momentum i was referring to the Caraher signing, hopefully we sign a few more and get that big man we've all been waiting for.


I agree, they are landing players which is usually the first step in any rebuild. I'm also one who thinks it's generally a bit easier (not exactly "easy") to get players when you initially come in as it's the "honeymoon period." Now, Ewing and his staff are out there grinding for the most part, but their job could become tougher if they aren't winning ball games.

I also agree, if Govan leaves (along, with Derrickson), then they're done for next season. I had an idea what you meant, in regards to our "momentum." Nothing against Caraher, as he looks to be a good pickup, but it'll be 19 months before he suit up and we're still in need of another player or two. So, that's why I asked that rhetorical question regarding "momentum." LOL

As, you also know.... I'm still not exactly sold on Ponds returning.
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