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Jalen Gaffney, PG, NJ 2 weeks 3 days ago #279835

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Correction, per Zach B
St Johns will have an in home visit with 2019 PG Jalen Gaffney next weekend not this weekend per source #sjubb
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Jalen Gaffney, PG, NJ 2 weeks 3 days ago #279842

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So if we get a kid like Gaffney and say Cockburn I think that would be a solid start to 2019 no? I certainly don't have a deep knowledge of recruiting but I read so much doom and gloom on here yet this would seem to be not so bad? And oh my God, Chris Mullin would be on the visit?
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sjc88 wrote: So if we get a kid like Gaffney and say Cockburn I think that would be a solid start to 2019 no? I certainly don't have a deep knowledge of recruiting but I read so much doom and gloom on here yet this would seem to be not so bad? And oh my God, Chris Mullin would be on the visit?


The only way we get this kid is by hiring Mike Rice.
Mullin has a difficult decision to make. Unfortunately, even the Maven is no longer convinced Mully will pull the trigger on a staff change.

At St. John's nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
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Jalen Gaffney, PG, NJ 2 weeks 3 days ago #279877

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sjc88 wrote: So if we get a kid like Gaffney and say Cockburn I think that would be a solid start to 2019 no? I certainly don't have a deep knowledge of recruiting but I read so much doom and gloom on here yet this would seem to be not so bad? And oh my God, Chris Mullin would be on the visit?


The only way we get this kid is by hiring Mike Rice.
Mullin has a difficult decision to make. Unfortunately, even the Maven is no longer convinced Mully will pull the trigger on a staff change.


Yikes, guess my cliff notes version of ‘reads’ on odds of getting Jalen faulty! Thought Rice was essential if there was any ‘ghost’ of a chance to get Lewis or Antoine—but thought we had a real shot at Gaffney, regardless of Rice.
This is a bummer.

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Jalen Gaffney, PG, NJ 2 weeks 3 days ago #279893

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Class of 72 wrote:

sjc88 wrote: So if we get a kid like Gaffney and say Cockburn I think that would be a solid start to 2019 no? I certainly don't have a deep knowledge of recruiting but I read so much doom and gloom on here yet this would seem to be not so bad? And oh my God, Chris Mullin would be on the visit?


The only way we get this kid is by hiring Mike Rice.
Mullin has a difficult decision to make. Unfortunately, even the Maven is no longer convinced Mully will pull the trigger on a staff change.


Yikes, guess my cliff notes version of ‘reads’ on odds of getting Jalen faulty! Thought Rice was essential if there was any ‘ghost’ of a chance to get Lewis or Antoine—but thought we had a real shot at Gaffney, regardless of Rice.
This is a bummer.


Think we do
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Jalen Gaffney, PG, NJ 2 weeks 3 days ago #279928

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If the only way we can get someone to sign is to hire someone as a coach I would rather not. Sounds a lot like extortion to me. Probably means the kid doesn't really want to be here anyway and what type of person are we hiring that can only get a job by bringing on an 18 year old. I know its not popular but that's the way I feel. No thank you.
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SJC88 wrote: If the only way we can get someone to sign is to hire someone as a coach I would rather not. Sounds a lot like extortion to me. Probably means the kid doesn't really want to be here anyway and what type of person are we hiring that can only get a job by bringing on an 18 year old. I know its not popular but that's the way I feel. No thank you.

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sjc88 wrote: If the only way we can get someone to sign is to hire someone as a coach I would rather not. Sounds a lot like extortion to me. Probably means the kid doesn't really want to be here anyway and what type of person are we hiring that can only get a job by bringing on an 18 year old. I know its not popular but that's the way I feel. No thank you.


Not extortion at all on Mike's part!
His players love him and although Paultzman feels positive any move by Rice to another school would change that outlook in a NY minute if the other coach had interest. That is my opinion but when you consider our batting record it is going to make a big difference in who makes the "final pitch".

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Jalen Gaffney, PG, NJ 2 weeks 3 days ago #279942

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sjc88 wrote: If the only way we can get someone to sign is to hire someone as a coach I would rather not. Sounds a lot like extortion to me. Probably means the kid doesn't really want to be here anyway and what type of person are we hiring that can only get a job by bringing on an 18 year old. I know its not popular but that's the way I feel. No thank you.


I would normally agree, but this isn’t the hiring of a coach just to get the player and then forcing that coach out shortly after. This is a former high major HC with good experience and recruiting ties throughout the local area. He will greatly improve our staff in every aspect.

And before people bring up his past, there have been tons of nice things said about him from people like D’Lo and his current kids. It really seems like he’s a different person.
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Jalen Gaffney, PG, NJ 2 weeks 3 days ago #279945

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In regards to Rice for me personally Panther2 had the best post I've seen on the situation the other day ( I forget which thread ) with Rice it's not about 1 kid it's about the tons of connections and AAU connections that he has developed and that is something that Panther2 is more familiar than any of us about since Panther2 is so connected to the AAU scene

Personally I dont view Rice as a get one guy type of hire like hiring Tiny would have been a few years ago
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